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Lucas Kowalski

Confused about NY unemployment certification as per diem worker with no shifts last week

I work as a per diem healthcare worker and I'm really confused about how to answer the weekly certification questions for NY unemployment. Last week I didn't pick up any shifts (nothing was available), but I'm still employed and I have shifts scheduled for this week. I didn't quit or get fired. When it asks if I worked or refused work, what do I answer? I'm worried about answering wrong and either losing my benefits for weeks I don't have shifts or getting flagged for fraud. Has anyone else dealt with this per diem situation? I don't want to mess up my money!

This is actually a common question for per diem workers. When certifying, you should answer that you did NOT work if you didn't pick up any shifts that week. Since no shifts were available (rather than you refusing offered shifts), you didn't refuse work either. Make sure to report 0 hours and $0 earnings for that week. The key is that you were available to work but no shifts were offered - this is different from refusing available work. As long as you remain available for shifts, you can typically claim for weeks when no work is offered.

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Thank you so much! That makes sense. So when it asks if I refused any work, I should say no since I wasn't offered any shifts to refuse, right? I just want to be super careful because I heard they're strict about this stuff.

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im a per diem too and i just put 0 hours if i didnt work that week. never had any issues so far. as long as your honest about it your good

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Thanks! Have you ever had weeks where you worked a little bit and collected partial benefits? I'm not sure how to report that either.

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yea just report exactly what u earned that week. system calculates it automatically. if u make under a certain amount u still get some benefits

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I'm in the EXACT same situation!!! Been per diem at a hospital for 2 years and some weeks I get NO shifts at all! I was SO nervous about answering wrong that I called unemployment like 20 times trying to get someone to explain it to me but could never get through. I ended up answering that I didn't work and didn't refuse work since nothing was offered to me. My claim was put on hold for two weeks while they "reviewed" it, but then the money came through all at once. Now I'm paranoid every week that they'll think I'm doing something wrong!!!!

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Make sure you keep some kind of record showing you were available but not scheduled. Screenshot your work app or emails showing no shifts were available. DOL sometimes asks for proof later that you were telling the truth.

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That's a good tip, thanks! I'll start taking screenshots of my scheduling app showing I was marked as available but not assigned shifts.

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Just to clarify for everyone: Per diem work has specific guidelines for unemployment in NY. If you're on an "as needed" basis and no work was available during your claim week, you answer: 1. No, you did not work 2. No, you did not refuse work (since no work was offered) 3. Yes, you were ready, willing and able to work Important: If your employer offers shifts and you decline them, that counts as refusing work and must be reported. Also, when you do work, remember to report gross earnings (before taxes) for the week you performed the work, not when you get paid. Per diem workers can receive full benefits for weeks with no work and partial benefits for weeks with reduced hours as long as you earn below 1.5x your weekly benefit rate.

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This is super helpful, thank you! One more question - does being "available" mean I have to be available 24/7, or just during my normal availability windows? I typically mark myself as available weekdays 7am-7pm but not nights or weekends.

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Great question. You don't need to be available 24/7. For unemployment purposes, you need to be available for your usual occupation during the hours typical for your profession. If your normal availability as a per diem worker is weekdays 7am-7pm, that's acceptable. Just make sure your availability allows for a reasonable number of potential work hours (generally at least 3-4 days per week during normal business hours for your field). As long as you're available for the hours you've historically worked and that are reasonable for your profession, you should be fine.

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THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST GIG WORKERS!!!! I was per diem for years and they CONSTANTLY put my account on hold because the system isn't designed for anyone but 9-5 workers. One week I'd get benefits, next week "we need more information" and my payments would stop for WEEKS while they "investigated." Then they'd release everything at once with no explanation. NIGHTMARE!!!!!

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While the system can definitely be frustrating, there are ways to minimize these issues. When you're in a non-traditional work arrangement like per diem, it helps to add detailed notes in the comment section of your weekly certification explaining your exact situation. For example: "Per diem healthcare worker, no shifts offered this week despite being available Monday-Friday 7am-7pm." This proactive documentation can help prevent holds.

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Thanks everyone for the helpful advice! I'm going to report that I didn't work but was available, and I'll start keeping better documentation of my availability and shift offerings. Really relieved to hear from other per diem workers who've navigated this successfully.

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np! dont stress about it too much, just be honest and youll be fine

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I had this same issue when I was doing substitute teaching. My advice is actually to call your employer's HR department too and ask them how they respond to unemployment verification requests for per diem workers with no shifts. That way you know both sides are giving consistent information. My school district had a specific way they verified my availability vs. when work wasn't available.

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That's a really smart idea I hadn't thought of! I'll reach out to HR tomorrow and see what they say. Thanks!

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I'm also per diem in healthcare and went through this exact confusion when I first started claiming! One thing that helped me was understanding that NY unemployment recognizes per diem work as legitimate employment - you're not trying to "game" the system, you're just dealing with the nature of on-call work. The key is consistency in how you report. Always report truthfully: if no shifts were available, you didn't work and didn't refuse work. If shifts were offered but you couldn't take them (sick, prior commitment, etc.), that's when you'd report refusing work. I've been doing this for 8 months now with no issues. The system actually handles per diem workers better than people think - it's designed to account for variable schedules. Just keep good records and you'll be fine!

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's been doing it successfully for 8 months! I think I was overthinking it because I kept reading horror stories online. Your point about the system being designed for variable schedules makes sense - per diem work isn't some new concept they haven't figured out how to handle. I feel much better about just being straightforward and honest in my reporting. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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I'm a per diem nurse and had this exact same panic when I started collecting! What really helped me was realizing that the certification questions are pretty straightforward when you break them down. For weeks with no shifts: 1) Did you work? No (because you literally didn't work any hours). 2) Did you refuse work? No (because no work was offered to refuse). 3) Were you able and available? Yes (assuming you were ready to pick up shifts if offered). The system is actually designed to handle variable work schedules - healthcare has tons of per diem workers so DOL sees this situation constantly. I've been certifying for 6 months now and never had an issue. Just report honestly and don't overthink it. The worst thing you can do is second-guess yourself and give inconsistent answers week to week!

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been spiraling about this for weeks and you're right - I'm totally overthinking it. Breaking it down into those simple yes/no questions makes it so much clearer. I think I got scared by all the warnings about fraud and started second-guessing every answer. Your point about being consistent week to week is really important too - I was worried I might accidentally contradict myself between certifications. Thanks for the reassurance from someone who's actually been through this successfully!

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I was in almost the exact same boat as you! Per diem pharmacy tech here and I was terrified I'd mess up my claim when I first started. Here's what worked for me: I treat each week like a snapshot - did I physically work hours that week? If no shifts were available and I worked 0 hours, then I didn't work. Since I wasn't offered any shifts to turn down, I didn't refuse work either. I always mark that I was available because I genuinely was ready to pick up shifts if they'd been offered. Been doing this for about 4 months now and haven't had any issues. The key is just being consistent and honest - don't try to outsmart the system, just answer based on what actually happened that week. You've got this!

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Thanks so much! It's really helpful to hear from another pharmacy worker who's been through this. I love how you described it as treating each week like a snapshot - that really simplifies it for me. I think I was getting caught up in the bigger picture of my employment status instead of just focusing on what happened during that specific week. Your approach of just answering based on what actually happened makes so much sense. I'm feeling way more confident about my next certification now!

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I'm also a per diem worker (home health aide) and went through this same confusion! What helped me was keeping a simple log each week - I write down if shifts were offered, if I accepted/declined them, and how many hours I actually worked. This way when I certify, I can just look at my notes instead of trying to remember. For weeks with no available shifts, I report 0 hours worked and that I didn't refuse work since nothing was offered. I also learned to screenshot my scheduling app showing my availability but no assigned shifts - this saved me when DOL asked for documentation once. The main thing is being consistent in how you report and keeping some kind of record. I've been collecting for about 5 months now with no issues using this approach.

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That's such a smart system! I never thought about keeping a weekly log but that would definitely help me feel more organized and confident when certifying. The screenshot idea is brilliant too - I can easily capture my scheduling app showing I was available but no shifts were posted. It's really reassuring to hear from so many per diem workers who've successfully navigated this. I was making it way more complicated in my head than it actually is. Thanks for sharing your practical approach!

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Jacob Lee

I'm a per diem respiratory therapist and I completely understand your anxiety about this! I went through the exact same panic when I first started claiming benefits. What really helped me was realizing that per diem workers are actually pretty common in healthcare, so the DOL system is set up to handle our situation. Here's my simple approach: if I didn't pick up any shifts that week because none were available, I report that I didn't work (0 hours) and didn't refuse work (since no shifts were offered to refuse). I always mark that I was available and able to work because I genuinely was. I've been doing this for about 7 months now and the only time I had any questions from DOL was when I forgot to report some overtime pay correctly - totally my own mistake. The system actually works pretty well for us once you get the hang of it. Just be honest about what actually happened each week and you'll be fine. Don't let the horror stories online psych you out - most of us per diem workers navigate this successfully!

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This is so helpful to hear from a fellow respiratory therapist! I've been stressing about this for weeks and your experience really puts my mind at ease. You're absolutely right that healthcare has tons of per diem workers, so of course the system would be designed to handle our situation. I think I got caught up in all the online horror stories and started catastrophizing every little detail. Your straightforward approach of just reporting what actually happened each week makes perfect sense. I'm definitely going to stop overthinking this and just be honest about my situation. Thanks for sharing your 7-month success story - it's exactly the reassurance I needed!

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