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Freya Thomsen

Why am I getting the American Opportunity Credit on TurboTax but not on FreeTaxUSA?

Hey everyone! I'm really confused about my taxes this year. I've completed everything except actually submitting on TurboTax, but decided to check FreeTaxUSA because TurboTax was getting expensive. Now I'm noticing something weird - TurboTax is giving me the American Opportunity Credit and the Lifetime Learning Credit, but FreeTaxUSA isn't offering either one. I've done some research online and since my income is only around $9,500 this year, it seems like maybe I shouldn't qualify for these education credits? But I'm not sure why TurboTax would include them if I don't qualify. I entered the same information on both sites (my 1098-T form and everything). Can anyone explain why there's this difference between the two tax programs? Should I be getting these education credits or not? I'm really confused and don't want to miss out on money if I deserve it, but also don't want to claim something incorrectly. Thanks for any help!!

Omar Fawaz

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The American Opportunity Credit and Lifetime Learning Credit can be tricky because they have different qualification requirements. The fact that TurboTax shows the credit but FreeTaxUSA doesn't might be due to how each software handles your specific tax situation. With income under $12,000, you might not have enough tax liability to claim the full education credits since they're partially non-refundable (though the American Opportunity Credit is 40% refundable). TurboTax might be calculating this differently than FreeTaxUSA. I'd recommend comparing the actual tax forms being generated by both systems. Look at Form 8863 (Education Credits) in both software packages and see what specific numbers differ. Also check if you entered all your education expenses the same way in both programs - sometimes the interview process asks questions differently which might lead to different inputs.

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Chloe Martin

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But I thought the American Opportunity Credit could give you money back even if you don't owe any taxes? Isn't that what "refundable" means? So even with low income, shouldn't they still get something?

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Omar Fawaz

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You're right that the American Opportunity Credit is partially refundable - specifically 40% of it (up to $1,000) can be refunded even if you don't owe taxes. The remaining 60% can only offset taxes you actually owe. With income under $12,000, the tax liability is likely very low or zero, which means you might only benefit from the refundable portion of the credit. This could be why the two software packages are calculating differently - they might be handling the refundable vs. non-refundable aspects differently, or there might be some qualification detail that one software is catching and the other isn't.

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Diego Rojas

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StarSeeker

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Diego Rojas

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StarSeeker

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Zara Ahmed

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Luca Esposito

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It's not a priority line - they use technology that automatically redials and navigates the IRS phone tree for you. Basically, they do the waiting and holding for you, and when they actually reach a human agent, they call you to connect. It's the same waiting time overall, but you don't have to sit there listening to hold music for hours. It's definitely not a scam - I was skeptical too, but it worked exactly as described. The technology just handles the frustrating part (constant redialing, navigating the automated system, waiting on hold) and then brings you in only when there's an actual agent ready to talk. Saved me tons of time and frustration since I could just go about my day instead of being stuck on the phone.

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Luca Esposito

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Nia Thompson

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One thing to check - make sure you're answering all the education questions completely in both software packages. Sometimes they ask questions in different ways. For example, FreeTaxUSA might ask if you're "half-time" or "full-time" student while TurboTax might ask "Were you enrolled at least half time for at least one academic period?" These little differences in how questions are phrased can lead to different answers and affect your credit eligibility. For the American Opportunity Credit specifically, you need to: - Be pursuing a degree - Be enrolled at least half-time - Be in your first 4 years of higher education - Not have claimed it for 4 years already - Not have a felony drug conviction

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Freya Thomsen

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I just double-checked both of them and I answered exactly the same on both platforms! I'm definitely a full-time student (took 15 credits last semester), am pursuing my bachelor's degree, and this is only my second year of college. No drug convictions either lol. Super weird that they're giving different results with the same info...

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Nia Thompson

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That is really strange then! In that case, I'd suggest looking at the actual Form 8863 that both software packages generate. You can view the actual forms before filing. Compare line by line to see exactly where they differ in calculations. Also, check how each software is handling your 1098-T information. Sometimes there's confusion around Box 1 (payments received) versus Box 2 (amounts billed) on the 1098-T, and qualified expenses like books that might not be included on the form. The software might be interpreting these differently.

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Have u tried clicking the "explain why" button in FreeTaxUSA? Sometimes they have explanations for why you don't qualify for certain credits. With your income that low, it might be that they're calculating you don't have enough tax liability for the non-refundable portion, but they should still give you the refundable part of the American Opportunity Credit.

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This is good advice. FreeTaxUSA actually has pretty detailed explanations if you click the info buttons. Last year it told me exactly why I didn't qualify for a credit I thought I should get (turned out I had checked a box wrong).

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If both programs are still showing different results after double-checking everything, you might want to just run your taxes through a third software as a tiebreaker. I use Cash App Taxes (formerly Credit Karma Tax) and it's completely free for federal and state. That way you can see if a third calculation matches either TurboTax or FreeTaxUSA.

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Ethan Wilson

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This is what I do every year! I always run my taxes through at least 2 different programs to compare results. Caught a $1200 difference last year because one program missed a deduction. I just file with whichever one gives me the best refund (assuming it's correct!

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Freya Thomsen

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That's actually a really good idea, I didn't know Cash App did taxes! I'll try that tonight and see what it says about the education credits. Hopefully it'll help clear this up. Taxes shouldn't be this complicated for someone making under 10k a year lol

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