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Evelyn Xu

When does the IRS 10-Year Statute of Limitations on tax debt collection actually start - assessment date question

I recently found out about the 10-year statute of limitations for the IRS to collect tax debt, and I'm trying to figure out if this might actually help with my situation. I never knew this was a thing until I was reading through some tax forums last month. What I'm confused about is exactly when this 10-year clock starts ticking. Is it from when you file the return? Or from the end of the tax year? Everything I'm reading says it's from the "assessment date" but I'm not clear what that actually means in practice. Here's my specific situation - I had some unfiled returns from 2008 that I didn't actually submit until sometime in 2012 (after the IRS started garnishing my paychecks). So I'm wondering if the 10-year collection period would expire in 2018 (ten years after the tax year) or 2022 (ten years after I finally filed)? The difference matters a lot for me because I'm trying to figure out if some of my older tax debts might actually be uncollectible now. I've been dealing with these old debts for what feels like forever, and the possibility that some might be beyond the collection window would be huge for my financial situation. Really appreciate any insights on how this 10-year statute of limitations actually works in practice!

Dominic Green

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The 10-year collection statute of limitations starts from the date the tax was assessed, not the date you filed or the end of the tax year. The assessment date is usually a few weeks after you file your return, when the IRS processes it and officially records the tax debt on their books. For unfiled returns that the IRS prepared for you (called Substitute for Returns or SFRs), the assessment date is when the IRS officially recorded that debt. For returns you filed late, like your 2008 return filed in 2012, the assessment date would be shortly after you filed in 2012. Here's an important note: The 10-year period can be extended in certain situations. If you requested an Offer in Compromise, filed for bankruptcy, had a Collection Due Process hearing, or signed a waiver extending the time period, the clock stops temporarily or gets extended. You can find your assessment dates by requesting an Account Transcript from the IRS for each tax year. It will show the exact assessment date and the Collection Statute Expiration Date (CSED). That's your definitive answer for when each debt expires.

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Evelyn Xu

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! So basically, for my 2008 taxes that I filed in 2012, the 10-year clock probably started ticking in 2012 when they processed my late return? That makes sense, but is disappointing since I was hoping the clock started in 2008. Is there any way to get these account transcripts without calling the IRS? Their phone lines are impossible these days.

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Dominic Green

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The assessment date for your 2012-filed return would indeed be in 2012, not 2008. The clock starts when the IRS officially records the tax debt, which couldn't happen until after you filed. You can get account transcripts without calling the IRS by creating an account on IRS.gov and using their "Get Transcript" service. It's available online and lets you immediately download your transcripts. You'll need some financial account information and ID verification to set up an account. If that doesn't work, you can also request transcripts by mail using Form 4506-T.

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Hannah Flores

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Grace Lee

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Evelyn Xu

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Mia Roberts

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Grace Lee

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Mia Roberts

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The Boss

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Just want to add something important about the 10-year statute that nobody mentioned yet - if you leave the country for more than 6 months, the statute of limitations gets suspended during that time! I found this out the hard way when I lived abroad for 2 years and came back to discover my collection period had been extended. Also, if you filed for an innocent spouse claim, that stops the clock too. Basically anything where the IRS has to pause collection activities can extend the 10 years.

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Wait really? I spend 8 months every year in Canada (dual citizen) and have IRS debt. Does that mean my 10 years keeps getting extended? How would they even track when I'm out of the country?

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The Boss

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The continuous 6-month absence is what triggers it, not just regular travel back and forth. If you're regularly returning to the US, that generally restarts the clock. It's when you're continuously absent for more than 6 months that the statute gets suspended. The IRS doesn't automatically track your movements, but if they're actively trying to collect and discover you've been out of the country, they can apply this rule. They might find out through passport records, foreign income reporting, or if you mention it during communication with them. For dual citizens with complex situations, it's definitely worth consulting with a tax pro who specializes in expat issues.

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Anyone know if filing for a Currently Not Collectible status extends the 10-year statute? I'm thinking about doing this but don't want to shoot myself in the foot if it adds more time to the collection period.

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Dominic Green

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Being placed in Currently Not Collectible (CNC) status does NOT extend the 10-year collection statute. The clock continues to run while you're in CNC status. This is actually an important strategy for some people - if you're close to the end of the 10-year period and can't pay, getting into CNC status might let you run out the clock. However, be careful - the actions you take to REQUEST the CNC status might involve other processes that do extend the statute. For example, if you file for a Collection Due Process hearing as part of disputing a collection action, that will suspend the statute until the hearing is resolved.

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Alice Fleming

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For anyone dealing with old tax debts, I can't stress enough how important it is to get your exact assessment dates and Collection Statute Expiration Dates (CSED) from the IRS. I was making payments on what I thought was a 2009 debt for years, only to find out it had actually expired in 2019! The key is understanding that the 10-year clock starts when the IRS officially assesses the tax - not when you file or when the tax year ends. For substitute returns (SFRs) that the IRS files for you, this can be years after the original tax year. For returns you file late, it's when they process your late filing. What really helped me was getting my Account Transcripts online through IRS.gov. Look for codes like "150" (which shows the assessment date) and "434" (which shows the CSED). These dates are crucial for planning your strategy. If you're close to the expiration date, you might want to avoid certain actions that could extend the statute. Just remember - the IRS won't voluntarily tell you when a debt expires. They'll keep sending notices and trying to collect even after the 10 years are up. It's your responsibility to know when the collection period ends and to assert this defense if they try to collect on expired debt.

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Kai Santiago

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This is incredibly helpful information - thank you for sharing! I'm in a similar situation where I've been making payments without really understanding when my debts might expire. The codes you mentioned (150 and 434) are exactly what I need to look for on my transcripts. One quick question - when you say the IRS won't voluntarily tell you when debt expires, does that mean they'll actually continue trying to collect even after the 10-year period is legally over? That seems like it should be illegal or at least against their own procedures. I'm definitely going to pull my account transcripts this week and look for those specific codes. It's frustrating that we have to be our own advocates on something this important, but at least now I know what to look for.

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