When does a Roth IRA Recharacterization count for Tax Year 2023 vs 2024?
I'm in a bit of a pickle with Vanguard regarding my Roth IRA recharacterizations. During 2023, I submitted two recharacterization requests to move funds from my Roth IRA back to my traditional IRA. Both were for my 2023 Roth contributions. The first recharacterization was initiated and fully completed by Vanguard in 2023, no issues there. However, the second one was initiated on 12/29/2023 but wasn't actually completed until 01/03/2024. I just got my 1099-R from Vanguard and it only shows the first recharacterization. When I called them, the rep insisted that since the second transfer was physically completed in 2024, it counts for the 2024 tax year. But I've been reading IRS Publication 590-A and it seems to contradict what the rep told me. The publication states: "If the transfer is made by the due date (including extensions) for your tax return for the tax year for which the contribution was made, you can elect to treat the contribution as having been originally made to the second IRA instead of to the first IRA." And it also says: "Timing. The election to recharacterize and the transfer must both take place on or before the due date (including extensions) for filing your tax return for the tax year for which the contribution was made to the first IRA." Since both recharacterizations were for 2023 contributions, and the second transfer was completed before my 2023 tax return is due, shouldn't it be reported on my 2023 return rather than 2024? I'm confused about who's right here.
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Owen Jenkins
You're absolutely right to question this. The IRS rules on recharacterizations are about when the process is completed relative to your tax filing deadline, not the calendar year. Based on what Publication 590-A says, both recharacterizations should be reported on your 2023 tax return because they were both completed before the filing deadline for 2023 taxes (which would be April 15, 2024, unless you file for an extension). The important factor is that both recharacterizations were for 2023 contributions and both were completed before the 2023 tax filing deadline. The fact that one was physically processed in January 2024 doesn't push it to the 2024 tax year. I'd suggest calling Vanguard back and speaking with a different representative, perhaps asking for someone in their tax reporting department specifically. They should issue a corrected 1099-R that includes both recharacterizations.
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Alice Coleman
•Thanks for the confirmation! I thought I was reading the rules correctly but the rep seemed so confident. Do you think I should wait for a corrected 1099-R before filing, or should I file based on what I know is correct even if the 1099-R doesn't match? Would there be any issues if I file with the information I know is correct but Vanguard never corrects the 1099-R they sent to the IRS?
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Owen Jenkins
•You should definitely get the corrected 1099-R before filing. While you're right about the rules, filing with information that doesn't match what the IRS received from Vanguard could trigger unnecessary complications or even an automated notice. Call Vanguard again, ask to speak with a supervisor or tax specialist, and reference the specific IRS publication language. Be persistent but polite. If they still refuse, you may need to attach an explanation to your return, but that should be a last resort. Most financial institutions want to get their reporting right and will issue corrections when presented with clear evidence.
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Lilah Brooks
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Jackson Carter
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Kolton Murphy
•I'm skeptical about these tax tools. Wouldn't it just be repeating what's in the publications that we can read ourselves? Did it actually give you anything you couldn't find on your own?
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Lilah Brooks
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Jackson Carter
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Evelyn Rivera
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Kolton Murphy
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Arjun Patel
Former tax preparer here. One important detail that hasn't been mentioned: make sure you get documentation from Vanguard showing when you INITIATED the recharacterization request (12/29/2023) as well as when it was completed (1/3/2024). Having both dates documented will help if there's ever any question about your intent to recharacterize within the 2023 calendar year. While the completion date being before the filing deadline is what matters legally, having proof that you requested it in 2023 adds an extra layer of protection.
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Alice Coleman
•That's a great point. I do have the confirmation email from when I submitted the request on 12/29. Should I also request some kind of formal documentation from Vanguard showing both the request date and completion date specifically for tax purposes?
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Arjun Patel
•Yes, definitely request formal documentation from Vanguard that shows both dates. A confirmation email is good, but having an official document from them that explicitly states both the initiation date and completion date will be much stronger if you're ever questioned or audited. Ask them for a "Letter of Confirmation" or "Transaction Verification Letter" regarding your recharacterization. Most brokerages have a standard form for this. Make sure it clearly shows both the 12/29/2023 request date and the 1/3/2024 completion date, and keep it with your tax records for at least 7 years.
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Jade Lopez
Anyone know if Vanguard generally fixes these 1099-R issues quickly? I have a similar problem but with Fidelity and I'm getting anxious about tax deadlines approaching.
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Tony Brooks
•I had to get a corrected 1099-R from Vanguard last year (different issue though) and they were pretty quick - took about 10 days. Fidelity was even faster for me the year before. Just make sure you talk to someone in their tax department who actually understands recharacterizations, not a general customer service rep.
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Jade Lopez
•Thanks, that's reassuring! I'll make sure to ask specifically for their tax department when I call tomorrow. Hoping it won't delay filing too much since I'm expecting a refund.
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Miguel Diaz
This is a really common misunderstanding with brokerages! You're absolutely correct based on the IRS rules. I work in tax compliance and see this issue frequently - the key is that recharacterizations are tied to the tax year of the original contribution, not when the transfer physically settles. Since both of your recharacterizations were for 2023 contributions and both were completed before your 2023 tax filing deadline, they should both be reported for tax year 2023. The fact that one settled in January 2024 is irrelevant. When you call Vanguard back, specifically ask for their "Retirement Services Tax Team" or "IRA Tax Specialist" rather than general customer service. Have Publication 590-A ready with the exact quotes you mentioned. Most importantly, reference the "timing" rule you cited - it's very clear that the election and transfer must both occur before the filing deadline for the contribution year. If they still push back, ask them to cite which specific IRS publication supports their position. They won't be able to because the rules are clear. Document everything in case you need to escalate to a supervisor.
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