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Genevieve Cavalier

When do I need to file Form 8300 for trading card purchases over $10k from hobbyists?

Hey fellow tax folks, I run a small business buying and selling trading cards (mostly sports and some TCG stuff). I'm about to finalize a deal with a local collector to purchase their personal collection for around $13,500. This isn't another business - just someone who's collected for years and is now liquidating. I know about Form 8300 requirements for cash transactions, but I'm confused about which direction it applies. Since I'm the business and I'm PAYING the money (not receiving it) to a hobbyist/individual for their personal collection, do I still need to file Form 8300? The hobbyist isn't a business or dealer, just someone with a nice collection they've built up. The payment would be via check. I want to make sure I'm following the right reporting requirements. Does anyone know if Form 8300 applies when a business is paying out large sums rather than receiving them? Thanks in advance!

Ethan Scott

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You've got a good question about Form 8300 requirements. The important thing to understand is that Form 8300 is filed by the RECIPIENT of cash payments over $10,000, not by the person making the payment. In your scenario, since you're the one PAYING money to purchase the trading card collection, you wouldn't be responsible for filing Form 8300. If you were selling cards and receiving more than $10,000 in cash, then you'd need to file the form. Also worth noting - since you mentioned you're paying by check, Form 8300 generally only applies to cash transactions, which includes actual currency, cashier's checks, money orders, bank drafts, and traveler's checks under certain circumstances. Personal checks and electronic payments don't trigger Form 8300 filing requirements. The hobbyist selling to you might have some tax reporting obligations on their end (they'll likely need to report the sale as a capital gain), but the Form 8300 filing requirement wouldn't apply to either of you in this transaction.

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Lola Perez

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Wait I'm confused. So if the hobbyist is selling their personal collection to a business and gets paid over $10k in cash, the hobbyist would need to file the 8300? Or is it that neither party files because it's a personal collection being sold, not business inventory?

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Ethan Scott

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To clarify, if the hobbyist receives more than $10,000 in actual cash (physical currency) from your business, then technically they (as the recipient of the cash) would be required to file Form 8300. However, most individuals aren't aware of this requirement since it's more commonly associated with businesses. Since you're paying by check, neither party needs to file Form 8300 for this transaction. Form 8300 is specifically for tracking large cash transactions, not for tracking all large transactions regardless of payment method.

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Just want to add that if you're regularly dealing in high-value collectibles, you might want to talk to a CPA who specializes in small businesses. Form 8300 might not apply to this specific transaction, but there could be other reporting requirements depending on your business structure and volume. I got hit with penalties last year because I didn't realize some of the reporting requirements for my collectibles business. Better to be safe than sorry!

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Thanks for this advice. Do you have any recommendations for finding a CPA who understands collectibles businesses specifically? And were there any particular forms or requirements that caught you by surprise?

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I found my CPA through a local business networking group specifically for collectibles dealers. If you're part of any trading card communities or attend shows, ask other dealers who they use. You can also search for CPAs who list "collectibles" or "dealer businesses" as specialties. The biggest surprise for me was inventory valuation methods and how they affected my taxes. I was using FIFO (first-in-first-out) but there were more advantageous methods for my specific situation. Also, the documentation requirements for proving basis on items I'd held in inventory for years were much stricter than I realized. My CPA helped me implement a proper inventory tracking system that saved me thousands.

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Laura Lopez

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This isnt directly about Form 8300 but make sure ur keeping good records of the purchase. the hobbyist might call it a "personal collection" but the IRS might view differently depending on their selling history. If they've made multiple big sales the IRS could argue they're actually in business.

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Totally agree. I know someone who got audited for exactly this reason. They were a "collector" who kept flipping collections for profit. IRS determined they were actually running an unregistered business and hit them with back taxes and penalties.

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Isabel Vega

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Great question about Form 8300! Just to add some clarity - you're correct that you wouldn't need to file Form 8300 in this situation since you're paying by check, not cash. But I wanted to mention something else that might be relevant for your trading card business. If you're regularly buying collections over $10k, you might want to consider whether you need to register as a money services business (MSB) depending on your transaction volume and patterns. It's not common for card dealers, but I've seen cases where high-volume businesses got flagged for not having proper AML (anti-money laundering) procedures in place. Also, make sure you're getting proper documentation for the purchase - receipts, any provenance documentation, photos of high-value items, etc. This protects you if there are ever questions about the legitimacy of the collection or if you need to prove your basis for future sales. The hobbyist angle is interesting too - if they're liquidating a truly personal collection they've held for years, they might qualify for favorable capital gains treatment on their end. Just something to keep in mind if they ask about tax implications of the sale.

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