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Naila Gordon

What's the correct journal entry to write off an unusable tax refund?

So I'm in a bit of a mess with our books. Last year, our bookkeeper made an entry for a state franchise tax overpayment by debiting a franchise tax receivable account and crediting a taxes and licenses expense account. The amount was around $3,200. The problem is, this overpayment isn't applicable anymore because the state went ahead and applied it to a different tax year without telling us. Now I need to get that amount off our balance sheet since it's essentially gone. I'm fairly new to handling the books and we're on a cash basis accounting system. What's the proper journal entry I should use to write this off? Do I just reverse the original entry or is there something else I need to do? Any help would be appreciated!

Cynthia Love

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Since you're on cash basis accounting, the solution is fairly straightforward. You'll need to remove that receivable from your books by debiting (increasing) your tax expense account and crediting (decreasing) the franchise tax receivable account. The entry would look like: Debit: Taxes and Licenses Expense $3,200 Credit: Franchise Tax Receivable $3,200 This effectively recognizes that the expected refund is no longer coming to you for the current year since the state applied it elsewhere. In cash basis, you record expenses when paid and income when received, so this adjustment properly reflects that the "receivable" no longer exists for your current year.

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Naila Gordon

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Thanks for the quick response! That makes sense, but I'm a bit confused about one thing. Since the original entry credited the Taxes and Licenses Expense account (reducing the expense), wouldn't debiting it now essentially just put us back where we started before the overpayment was recorded? Would it make more sense to debit some kind of loss account instead since we're essentially "losing" this receivable?

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Cynthia Love

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You're thinking correctly about the mechanics. Yes, debiting the Taxes and Licenses Expense now would essentially reverse the benefit you recorded earlier, putting you back where you started. That's exactly what we want to do since the benefit of that overpayment is no longer applicable to your current year. If you prefer to track this more specifically, you could use a different expense account like "Prior Year Tax Adjustments" or "Tax Write-offs" instead of the general Taxes and Licenses Expense. This would keep your current year's regular tax expenses clean while still properly accounting for the write-off. The important part is removing the receivable that's no longer valid.

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Philip Cowan

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Former state tax auditor here. For a cash basis taxpayer, the most appropriate entry would be: Dr: Tax Expense (or Other Expense) $3,200 Cr: Franchise Tax Receivable $3,200 The key is properly documenting WHY you're making this adjustment. I'd recommend getting something in writing from the state showing they applied the credit to another period. This creates an audit trail explaining why the receivable disappeared. Without proper documentation, this kind of adjustment can raise questions during an audit.

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Naila Gordon

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Thanks for the insight! I do have an email from the state tax department confirming they applied the credit to a prior year's underpayment. Should I reference that email or correspondence number in the journal entry description field?

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Philip Cowan

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Absolutely reference the state correspondence in your journal entry description field. Include the date of the email, the name/ID of the representative if available, and any reference/confirmation numbers. I would also save a copy of that email with your tax files for that year. If you really want to be thorough, create a brief memo explaining the situation and attach the email as supporting documentation. This creates a clear audit trail showing you made the adjustment based on official information from the tax authority, not just an arbitrary decision to write off a receivable.

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Caesar Grant

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Had the exact same thing happen with a $4,900 franchise tax overpayment. Our accountant made this entry: Dr: Tax Expense 4,900 Cr: Franchise Tax Receivable 4,900 But he also added a sub-account under Tax Expense called "Prior Period Adjustments" to keep it separate from current year expenses. Made it cleaner for tracking purposes and easier to explain if we ever get audited.

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Lena Schultz

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That's actually a smart approach. Using a sub-account helps with internal tracking and makes year-over-year comparisons more meaningful by separating unusual items from recurring expenses.

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Gemma Andrews

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Just wondering - did the state notify you when they applied your overpayment to a different year? We had something similar happen but never received any communication. Only discovered it when preparing for this year's filing.

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Naila Gordon

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Nope, they never notified us either! I only found out when I was reconciling our tax accounts and couldn't figure out why we still had this receivable on our books but never received the refund. Had to call them to figure out what happened. The state agent told me they had applied it to an underpayment from three years ago that we weren't even aware of. Would have been nice to get a heads up!

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Adriana Cohn

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This is a common issue that many businesses face! Since you're on cash basis accounting, the journal entry suggested by others is correct - you'll want to debit your tax expense account and credit the franchise tax receivable to remove it from your balance sheet. One additional tip: consider setting up a monthly or quarterly reconciliation process for your tax accounts to catch these situations earlier. States often apply credits and make adjustments without notification, so regular review of your receivables against actual refunds received can help identify discrepancies before they become bigger accounting headaches. Also, make sure to keep detailed documentation of the state's communication about where they applied your overpayment. This kind of supporting documentation is invaluable if you ever face questions about the adjustment during an audit or review.

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Great advice on the reconciliation process! I'm definitely going to implement that going forward. Quick question - when you mention reconciling tax accounts monthly/quarterly, do you have a specific checklist or process you follow? I'm thinking I should be comparing our recorded receivables against actual payments received, but I'm wondering if there are other key items I should be checking to catch these issues early. Any tips on setting up an efficient review process would be really helpful!

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