How should I handle a refundable deposit for tax purposes with my LLC?
Quick tax question for my single-member LLC (disregarded entity). I had to pay a $500 deposit to the state to get my sales and use tax permit, which they say will be refunded in three years if I'm in good standing. I'm confused about how to handle this on my Schedule C - should I expense it now and then count it as income when refunded? Or is there a better way to account for this type of refundable deposit? I use QuickBooks but couldn't find a clear answer on this. Thank you for any guidance!
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Kendrick Webb
This isn't actually a deductible expense since you'll be getting it back. The proper way to handle a refundable deposit like this is to record it as an asset on your books - specifically as a "deposit asset" or "other asset." In QuickBooks, you'd want to create an Other Current Asset account (or Long-Term Asset if it's over 12 months, which yours is) and categorize the payment there instead of as an expense. When you eventually get the money back, you'd just clear out that asset account, with no impact on your income. If you mistakenly recorded it as an expense already, you should reclassify it to the appropriate asset account so it doesn't reduce your taxable income incorrectly.
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Hattie Carson
•But what if they never actually refund it? The state told me they would refund my deposit too but it's been 4 years and I've gotten nothing despite being "in good standing". Should I have just expensed it from the beginning?
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Kendrick Webb
•If you've waited beyond the promised refund period and made reasonable attempts to get your refund without success, you could then reclassify it as an expense in the current tax year. You'd want to document your attempts to recover the deposit to support the deduction. For your situation, since it's been 4 years and you've tried to get it back, you could likely deduct it now as a business expense. It would be considered a "loss" at this point rather than your original deposit.
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Nadia Zaldivar
Just wanted to add that the way you handle deposits may be slightly different depending on your accounting method (cash vs. accrual). If you're using cash basis, which most small single-member LLCs do, the asset approach mentioned above is correct.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
•Could you explain the difference if you're on accrual basis? My CPA switched me to accrual last year and now I'm wondering if I handled my deposits wrong.
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Nadia Zaldivar
•On accrual basis, you'd still record the refundable deposit as an asset rather than an expense, so the fundamental treatment is the same. The main difference comes in the timing of when you recognize transactions. For example, if there were any conditions attached to the deposit that might make it non-refundable, you'd need to evaluate those conditions at each reporting period to determine if the deposit should be reclassified. With cash basis, you'd typically wait until the actual refund occurs or fails to occur before making any changes.
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Ev Luca
Has anyone here actually received their sales tax permit deposit back? My state (Florida) promised a refund after 3 years too, but when the time came they claimed I had filed one of my monthly returns 2 days late in year 2, so they kept the entire $500 deposit. Wondering if this is common practice.
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Avery Davis
•I got mine back from Pennsylvania without any issues, but I was super careful about filing everything on time. Had a calendar reminder 5 days before each deadline. They sent the refund automatically right after the 3-year mark.
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Khalil Urso
Great question! I went through this exact same situation with my LLC last year. The advice about treating it as an asset is spot on - don't expense it initially since you're expecting to get it back. I set up a "Deposits - Refundable" asset account in my accounting software and recorded the $500 there. One thing I'd add is to keep really good documentation about the deposit terms and your compliance with the requirements. Take screenshots of your filing confirmations, payment receipts, etc. Some states are pretty strict about the "good standing" requirements and will keep your deposit for minor issues. Also, if you're using QuickBooks, you can set up a reminder for when the 3-year period is almost up so you can proactively follow up on getting your refund rather than waiting for them to process it automatically.
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