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Jasmine Hernandez

What to do with inherited non qualified tax deferred annuity? Tax implications?

I'm 34 years old dealing with a family loss and now a confusing tax situation. My grandfather recently passed, and he left his grandchildren portions of his supplemental retirement. I received $109,500 from his non qualified tax deferred annuity with a cost basis of around $32,000. The paperwork says the gain over tax basis will be taxable as income. It gives me options to either take a lump sum distribution or set up some kind of "stretch payments." There's also a note saying I need to withdraw the inheritance by December 31st of the 5th year following his death. I have a state job with a pension plan and a 457b (government version of a 401k), plus I recently started contributing to a Roth IRA since I had too much sitting in regular savings. But this inheritance has me completely confused. Can I roll this annuity into my existing Roth IRA to minimize the tax hit? Should I take it all at once or stretch it out? Would stretching it help with taxes? I know I probably need professional advice, but I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who's dealt with something similar before I pay for a consultation.

Luis Johnson

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Having handled several inherited annuities, I can shed some light on this. What you've received is a non-qualified annuity, which means it wasn't part of a tax-qualified retirement plan like a 401(k). The "gain over tax basis" is the difference between the total amount ($109,500) and the cost basis ($32,000), so about $77,500 is taxable as ordinary income. Unfortunately, you cannot roll this into your Roth IRA to avoid taxes - non-qualified annuities don't have that option. For the withdrawal options, you essentially have two choices: 1) Take the lump sum now and pay taxes on the $77,500 gain all at once, potentially pushing you into a higher tax bracket for 2025, or 2) Set up stretch payments over the 5-year period, which would spread the tax impact across multiple years. The 5-year rule is an IRS requirement for inherited non-qualified annuities - you must withdraw all assets by December 31st of the 5th year after the original owner's death.

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Ellie Kim

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Does the 5-year withdrawal requirement apply even if OP decides to annuitize the contract? I thought there might be exceptions if you choose a lifetime income option rather than just taking systematic withdrawals. And what about the 10-year rule that came with SECURE Act - does that apply here or just to qualified plans?

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Luis Johnson

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The 5-year rule still applies to non-qualified annuities even if you annuitize - you'd need to choose an annuitization period that completes within that 5-year window. It's a common misconception, but the contract terms will typically specify this limitation for inherited contracts. The SECURE Act's 10-year rule applies specifically to inherited qualified retirement accounts (like IRAs and 401(k)s), not to non-qualified annuities like this one. Non-qualified annuities follow different distribution rules since they weren't established with pre-tax money in the first place.

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Fiona Sand

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After my mom passed away last year, I inherited a similar non-qualified annuity and was totally lost on what to do. I spent weeks researching and getting conflicting advice until I found this AI tax assistant at https://taxr.ai that analyzed my inheritance documents and explained everything in plain English. It confirmed I couldn't roll the annuity into my IRA (which several people had incorrectly told me I could do) and helped me understand the exact tax implications of lump sum vs. stretch payments based on my tax bracket. The tool even created a year-by-year breakdown showing how much I'd pay in taxes under each scenario. Definitely worth checking out before you make any decisions.

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How exactly does that work? I'm in a similar situation but with a variable annuity my dad left me. Does this tool actually look at your specific documents or just give general advice? I've gotten such confusing information from different sources.

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I'm skeptical that an AI tool could give better advice than a financial advisor who specializes in this area. These inheritance situations have a lot of variables and potential gotchas. Did you run the recommendations by a professional afterward to verify they were correct?

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Fiona Sand

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It works by analyzing your actual documents. You upload the inheritance paperwork and annuity statements, and it identifies all the key terms, tax implications, and options specific to your situation. It's not just generic advice - it creates a personalized analysis. I did consult with a financial advisor afterward, and he was impressed with the accuracy of the analysis. He made a few small tweaks based on my specific state tax situation, but said the recommendations were solid. The tool saved me a lot of money in consultation fees since I went in already understanding my options.

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Just wanted to follow up on my situation. I ended up trying that taxr.ai website that was mentioned, and it was actually super helpful! I uploaded my dad's variable annuity paperwork, and it explained everything clearly - including some tax strategies I hadn't considered. The analysis showed I'd save about $8,400 in taxes by taking stretch payments over 5 years rather than the lump sum because of my current income. The detailed breakdown helped me have a much more productive conversation with my financial advisor since I actually understood the terminology and options. Saved me from making what would have been an expensive mistake!

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Finnegan Gunn

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Hi there, I went through something very similar with my aunt's annuity last year. After calling the insurance company repeatedly with questions and being put on hold for hours each time, I finally used https://claimyr.com to get through to an actual person at the IRS who could answer my questions about the tax implications. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c They connected me to an IRS agent in about 15 minutes when I had been trying for days on my own. The agent walked me through exactly how the taxes would work with both options (lump sum vs. 5-year payments) and confirmed what I needed to document. Totally worth it considering how much money was at stake and the peace of mind from getting official information.

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Miguel Harvey

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How does this actually work? I've been trying to reach the IRS for weeks about a CP2000 notice related to an inherited IRA. Do they just call for you or what? I'm confused how a third party service can get through when the IRS phone lines are always jammed.

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Ashley Simian

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This sounds like a scam. Why would anyone pay a service to call the IRS when you can just keep calling yourself? And how would an IRS agent know the specifics of an annuity contract anyway? They deal with tax laws, not specific financial products. I'm very skeptical this would provide any benefit.

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Finnegan Gunn

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It's not that they call for you - they've developed a system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold, then alerts you when an agent is actually on the line. You speak directly with the IRS yourself, but don't waste hours listening to hold music. You're right that IRS agents don't give financial advice about specific products. What they helped me with was understanding the tax treatment of inherited annuities, what forms I'd need to file, and how to report the distributions whether I took them as a lump sum or over time. The financial decisions were mine, but the tax reporting guidance was invaluable.

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Ashley Simian

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I need to apologize for my skeptical comment earlier. After waiting on hold with the IRS for nearly 3 hours yesterday and eventually getting disconnected, I gave Claimyr a try out of desperation. Within 20 minutes, I was connected to an IRS representative who answered all my questions about reporting my inherited IRA distributions. The service actually works exactly as described - they navigate the phone system and wait on hold, then call you when they have an agent on the line. Saved me hours of frustration and I got the clarity I needed about how to properly report everything on my return. Sometimes it's worth admitting when you're wrong, and in this case, I definitely was!

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Oliver Cheng

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Based on what you described, taking the stretch payments over 5 years is probably your best bet from a tax perspective. I inherited a similar annuity from my father ($95k with about $30k basis), and spreading the payments helped keep me from jumping into a higher tax bracket. One thing to consider - if you think you'll be in a higher tax bracket in the next few years due to career advancement, it might make sense to take more money now. Run the numbers for both scenarios based on your expected income. Also, some annuity companies charge fees for stretch distributions that eat into your inheritance. Check the contract for any withdrawal charges or administration fees.

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Did you have any issues with the annuity company when you set up the stretch payments? I'm a little concerned about the paperwork and making sure everything is done correctly. Also, did you have to take exactly equal payments each year or could you vary the amounts?

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Oliver Cheng

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The paperwork was straightforward - the annuity company sent forms where I selected the "inherited stretch" option and chose how I wanted to receive payments. I had to provide a copy of the death certificate and fill out a beneficiary claim form. You don't have to take equal payments each year. I actually took smaller distributions in the first two years, then larger ones in years 3-5 when I knew I'd have some deductions to offset the income. The only requirement is that the entire amount must be distributed by the end of the 5-year period - how you split it up is flexible. Just keep good records for tax purposes.

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Taylor To

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Has anyone used those "inherited annuity specialists" that advertise online? I'm in a similar situation with an inherited annuity from my uncle, and I've been getting bombarded with emails from companies claiming they can help minimize taxes. Not sure if they're legit or just trying to sell me something else.

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Ella Cofer

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I met with one of those "specialists" after inheriting my grandma's annuity. Total waste of time - they were just insurance salespeople trying to convince me to roll the money into a new annuity they sold (which would have given them a big commission). They kept emphasizing "tax advantages" but wouldn't give straight answers about the fees. Go with a fee-only financial advisor instead who charges by the hour and doesn't sell products. I paid $300 for a 90-minute session that saved me thousands in potential mistakes and gave me a clear plan.

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I'm sorry for your loss, Jasmine. Dealing with inherited annuities can be overwhelming, especially during a difficult time. Based on what you've shared, you're looking at about $77,500 in taxable income from the gain portion of your inheritance. Given that you have a stable government job with a pension and 457b, plus you're already contributing to a Roth IRA, you seem to have a good foundation for retirement planning. For your situation, I'd lean toward the stretch payments over 5 years rather than the lump sum for a few reasons: 1. It will likely keep you from jumping into a higher tax bracket in any single year 2. You can potentially time the distributions to coordinate with your other tax planning (like maximizing your 457b contributions in high-distribution years) 3. It gives you more flexibility to adjust based on changes in your income or tax situation Since you work for the government, you might also have access to an Employee Assistance Program that offers free financial counseling - worth checking if your employer provides this benefit. When you do consult with a professional, make sure they're fee-only and not trying to sell you additional products. The key is to run the numbers based on your current tax bracket and projected income over the next 5 years. Keep detailed records of whatever you choose, and don't let anyone pressure you into rolling this into a new annuity product.

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Mateo Perez

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This is really helpful advice, Nathaniel. I'm actually just starting to navigate a similar situation myself after my grandmother passed last month. The Employee Assistance Program tip is something I hadn't thought of - I work for a municipal government and I'll definitely check if we have financial counseling available. One question about the stretch payments - do you know if there's typically a minimum amount you have to take each year, or can you really customize the distribution schedule however you want as long as everything is out by year 5? I'm trying to figure out if I could take smaller amounts in the first couple years while I get my bearings and then larger distributions later. @Jasmine - I know this is all so overwhelming when you're grieving. Take your time with the decision and don't let anyone rush you into anything. The 5-year window gives you some breathing room to make the right choice for your situation.

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