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Jay Lincoln

Inheriting a non-qualified tax deferred annuity - tax implications and options?

So I'm 31 years old and recently my grandmother passed away (still trying to process everything). She had this supplemental retirement plan that she divided among her grandchildren. I received about $110,000 with a cost basis of around $33K. The paperwork states that any gain over the tax basis is taxable as income. I'm looking at my options since I need to make decisions - it says I can take a lump sum distribution or set up stretch payments. There's also this requirement that I need to withdraw the inheritance by December 31st of the 5th year following her death. I'm completely lost on what this all means tax-wise. I work for the county and already have a pension plan and a 457 plan (similar to a 401k). I also just started a Roth IRA last year because I had too much sitting in my regular savings. Does anyone have experience with inherited non-qualified tax deferred annuities? Should I take it all at once and deal with the tax hit? Should I stretch the payments? Is there any way to roll this into my existing retirement accounts to minimize the tax impact? I know I probably need a financial advisor, but wanted to see if anyone here has been through this before.

I've dealt with these situations before. Non-qualified tax deferred annuities are a bit tricky when inherited. The "gain over tax basis" means you'll pay income tax on the difference between what your grandmother paid in ($33K in your case) and the total value ($110K). So you'll be taxed on about $77K of growth. The five-year rule means you have to empty the account by the end of the fifth year after your grandmother's death, but you don't have to take it all at once. You have options: The stretch payment option would distribute the money over that five-year period, which could help spread out the tax burden instead of taking a big hit in one year that might push you into a higher tax bracket. Unfortunately, you cannot roll this into your Roth IRA or other qualified retirement plans. Non-qualified annuities don't have that option when inherited. I'd recommend considering your current and projected income over the next five years. If you expect salary increases, it might make sense to take larger distributions now. If you're anticipating big expenses in the coming years, the cash flow from stretch payments could be helpful.

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This is really helpful, but I'm a bit confused about the tax implications. If I take it all at once, would that $77K be added to my regular income for the year? I make about $65K annually, so would that essentially double my taxable income and probably push me into a much higher bracket?

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Yes, if you take the entire distribution in one year, that $77K would be added to your regular income for that tax year. With your current income of $65K, adding $77K would indeed push you into higher tax brackets for that year. Taking the stretch payments over the 5-year period would likely be more tax-efficient as it would add approximately $15-16K to your taxable income each year instead of $77K all at once. This approach typically keeps you in a lower tax bracket compared to the lump sum option, though everyone's situation is different depending on other income factors.

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That sounds interesting. Did it actually help with the paperwork or just give you information? I'm wondering because the insurance company sent me a bunch of complex forms about beneficiary claims and distribution options.

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Dylan Baskin

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Whatever you do, DON'T take it all at once if you don't absolutely need the money right now! My brother inherited an annuity last year, took the lump sum, and was shocked when tax time came around. Not only did it push him into a higher tax bracket, but that additional "income" affected his eligibility for certain deductions and credits. Consider your near-future too - if you're planning to buy a house or anything that requires financing in the next year or two, a large distribution could affect your debt-to-income ratio on loan applications.

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Jay Lincoln

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Thanks for the warning. I definitely don't need all the money at once since I'm stable with my county job. How much did your brother end up owing in taxes compared to what he would have paid if he stretched it out? Was he able to prepare for the hit?

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Dylan Baskin

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My brother ended up owing about $17,000 more in taxes than expected because the lump sum pushed him from the 22% bracket into the 32% bracket. He also lost part of his child tax credit phase-out which was another hit. It was a mess. He wasn't prepared at all. He thought since it was inheritance, it might be treated differently. That mistake cost him financially and caused a lot of stress. He could have paid about $9,000 less overall if he'd stretched it over the allowed period, according to the tax advisor he consulted afterward. The worst part was he didn't even need all the money at once - he just didn't understand the implications.

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Lauren Wood

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Has anyone looked into using the inherited annuity money to fund a different type of investment that might have tax advantages? I'm wondering if taking a distribution but then immediately putting it into something else might help offset the tax hit.

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Ellie Lopez

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You can't avoid the income tax on the distribution, but you could potentially use strategies to offset some of it. For example, if you have capital losses you haven't realized yet, you could sell those investments in the same year you take a distribution to offset some gains. You could also maximize contributions to your pre-tax retirement accounts like your 457 plan in years you take distributions.

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Just went through this exact situation. One thing nobody mentioned yet - you might want to contact the annuity company and ask if they can process a "direct transfer" to another annuity instead of taking distributions. Some companies allow this for non-spouse beneficiaries, and it can preserve the tax-deferred status while still meeting the 5-year requirement. I transferred mine to a new annuity that I control, which gives me more investment options than what my grandfather had selected. Still have to take it all out within 5 years, but this way I have more control over when and how.

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Amy Fleming

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I'm sorry for your loss, Jay. Dealing with financial decisions while grieving is never easy. Based on what you've shared, I'd strongly recommend the stretch payment approach over the lump sum for several reasons: 1. **Tax bracket management**: Adding $77K to your $65K salary would push you well into higher tax brackets for that year, likely costing you significantly more than spreading it over 5 years. 2. **Time value**: Since you don't need the money immediately and already have stable income plus retirement savings, the stretch gives you time to plan and potentially optimize your overall tax situation each year. 3. **Flexibility**: You can always accelerate distributions in later years if your circumstances change, but you can't undo taking a lump sum. Given that you work for the county, you might also want to check if your employer offers any financial planning services through your benefits package. Many government employers provide access to retirement planning specialists who understand public sector benefits. Also consider maximizing your 457 contributions in the years you're taking distributions to help offset some of the tax impact. The combination of stretch payments plus increased pre-tax retirement contributions could significantly reduce your overall tax burden. Take your time with this decision - you have options and don't need to rush.

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This is excellent advice, Amy. I'm curious about one thing you mentioned - can you really accelerate distributions in later years if circumstances change? I thought once you chose the stretch payment method, you were locked into equal payments over the 5-year period. Does it depend on the specific annuity contract terms, or is there flexibility built into the IRS rules for inherited non-qualified annuities?

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