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What is the Simple IRA Contribution Deadline for 2023 paychecks received in 2024?

I'm trying to maximize my Simple IRA contributions for 2023 but I'm running into a weird issue with my employer. I get paid twice a month, and my last paycheck for the period ending 12/31/2023 won't actually hit my bank account until around January 15th or so of 2024. Here's the problem - our payroll department is telling me that since the money will be physically paid out in January 2024, it can't count toward my 2023 Simple IRA contribution limits. But I'm pretty sure I've read IRS guidance that contradicts this. They have specific language about contributions being attributed to the tax year in which the money was earned, not necessarily when it was paid out. Has anyone dealt with this before? I'm trying to max out my 2023 contributions (which I think is $15,500 since I'm under 50), and this last paycheck would put me right at the cap. I don't want to miss out on the tax advantages just because of a payroll timing issue. Is my employer interpreting the rules correctly, or do I have a case here?

Paolo Marino

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Your employer is mixing up two different concepts here. For Simple IRA contributions through payroll deductions, what matters is when the wages were PAID to you, not when they were earned. If your pay for the period ending 12/31/2023 isn't paid until January 2024, then those contributions would count toward your 2024 limit, not 2023. The key is the actual payment date, not the pay period end date. This is different from traditional or Roth IRAs where you can make contributions for a previous year until the tax filing deadline (usually April 15th of the following year).

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Thanks for the quick response! So even if the pay period was entirely in 2023 (December 16-31), if I don't physically receive the money until January 2024, then any Simple IRA contributions from that check would count toward 2024? That's disappointing - I was really hoping to max out 2023. Would it make any difference if my employer were to process the payroll earlier? Like if they could somehow get the 12/31 paycheck to me on 12/31 instead of mid-January?

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Paolo Marino

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Yes, it's all about when you actually receive the payment, not when you earned it. The IRS is pretty clear that Simple IRA contributions through payroll deduction happen when the money is paid to you. If your employer could process the payroll earlier and actually pay you in December, then yes, it would count for 2023. However, many companies have fixed payroll schedules that are difficult to change, especially around year-end when they're dealing with W-2 preparation and other tax matters. It doesn't hurt to ask, but don't be surprised if they say it's not possible.

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LunarLegend

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Malik Jackson

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Everyone's focusing on the Simple IRA rules, but have you considered making an additional contribution directly to a Traditional or Roth IRA? The contribution limits are separate from your Simple IRA, and you have until the tax filing deadline (April 15, 2024) to make contributions for the 2023 tax year. For 2023, you can contribute up to $6,500 ($7,500 if you're 50 or older) to a Traditional or Roth IRA, subject to income limitations. This might be a good way to save more for retirement even if you can't maximize your Simple IRA for 2023.

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I didn't even think about that! Do you know if I can have both a Simple IRA through my employer AND contribute to a separate Traditional IRA? Is there any impact to the deductibility of Traditional IRA contributions if you also have a workplace retirement plan?

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Malik Jackson

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You can definitely have both a Simple IRA and a Traditional or Roth IRA. However, being covered by a workplace retirement plan (like your Simple IRA) does affect the deductibility of Traditional IRA contributions based on your income. For 2023, if you're covered by a workplace plan, the deduction for Traditional IRA contributions starts to phase out at $73,000 for single filers and $116,000 for married filing jointly. If your income is above those thresholds, you might want to consider a Roth IRA instead (which has its own income limits) or a non-deductible Traditional IRA contribution that could potentially be converted to a Roth later (the "backdoor Roth" strategy).

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Just wondering - has anyone tried calling their payroll dept and asking them to process the final paycheck of the year earlier? My company does this some years. They'll run the Dec 31 payroll a few days early to make sure everyone gets paid before the year ends, which helps with retirement contributions counting for the current year.

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Ravi Patel

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My company does this too! We specifically asked about it a few years ago because several employees wanted to max out their retirement contributions, and now they just automatically process the last paycheck of the year earlier. It might be worth asking - the worst they can say is no.

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That's a great idea! I just called my payroll department and asked about this. They said they normally don't change their schedule, but since there are several employees in my situation, they're going to bring it up with management to possibly process the final 2023 payroll on December 29th instead of waiting until January. Fingers crossed this works out - thanks for the suggestion!

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