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When does a 401K non-discrimination test failure affect the tax year of excess contributions retroactively?

I just got blindsided by my company's HR department saying I'll be receiving a return of excess contribution from my 401k because our company failed the non-discrimination test. What's confusing me is the timing of everything. The HR rep keeps insisting that since they're making this correction within the first 2.5 months of 2025, I need to include this adjustment on my 2024 tax return. My understanding has always been that when excess contributions are returned, the original tax year (2024) stays untouched - meaning I file my 2024 taxes as if I made the full contribution. Then the correction gets handled on my 2025 return, and I'd receive a 1099-R in January 2026. The HR guy keeps referring to this "2.5 month rule" (which would be March 15, 2025) saying that's the cutoff that determines which tax year gets affected. I've searched everywhere and can't find specific IRS guidance about this 2.5 month timeframe he's fixated on. Can anyone clarify if there's actually a rule where the non-discrimination test fix can retroactively impact the tax year when the contributions were made? I need to file my taxes soon and want to make sure I'm not messing anything up!

The HR rep is actually correct about the 2.5 month rule, but there might be some confusion about how it affects your taxes. When a 401(k) plan fails the non-discrimination test (which compares highly compensated employees' contributions to those of other employees), the plan has until March 15 of the following year to correct the failure without penalties. If the correction is made within this 2.5 month period after the end of the plan year (by March 15, 2025 for a calendar year plan), the excess contributions and associated earnings returned to you are considered taxable income in the year they were originally contributed (2024). You'll receive a 1099-R for 2024 (not 2026) and need to include this on your 2024 return. If the correction happens after March 15, 2025, then the excess amount would be taxable in 2025 instead, and you'd report it on your 2025 return.

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Wait, so if I'm understanding correctly, the 2.5 month rule affects which year the returned excess is taxed in? If they fix it before March 15, I pay taxes on the returned amount for 2024, but if they fix it after March 15, then I pay taxes on it in 2025? That seems so weird - is this just for the non-discrimination test failures or does it apply to other 401k excess contribution situations too?

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Yes, that's exactly right. If they fix the non-discrimination test failure by returning excess contributions before March 15, 2025, then those returned amounts (plus earnings) are taxable in 2024. If they fix it after March 15, 2025, the returned amount would be taxable in 2025. This timing rule applies specifically to 401(k) plan corrections for failed non-discrimination tests. Other types of excess contribution situations (like personally exceeding the annual contribution limit) have different correction procedures and timing rules.

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Does the tool automatically figure out if your corrected distribution falls under the 2.5 month window? I'm in the same situation but my HR department isn't being clear about exactly when they're processing the correction.

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My company had this exact same issue a few years back. Something that nobody has mentioned yet - make sure your W-2 is correct! My company initially issued W-2s with the full contribution amount in Box 12 (with code D for 401k deferrals), then had to issue a corrected W-2 after the non-discrimination test failure. If your HR doesn't send a corrected W-2, your reported retirement contributions won't match what actually happened after the correction. This can create a real headache if you get audited later. Double-check that your W-2 reflects the reduced contribution amount after the excess is returned.

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Thanks for mentioning this! I didn't even think about the W-2 issue. Do you know if companies are required to issue corrected W-2s in this situation, or is it something I need to specifically request from HR?

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Companies are definitely required to issue corrected W-2s in this situation because the original information would be inaccurate after the excess contribution is returned. However, in my experience, you might need to specifically ask about it. When it happened at my company, HR initially didn't realize they needed to issue corrected W-2s until several employees pointed it out. The corrected W-2 should show the reduced 401(k) contribution amount in Box 12 with code D, reflecting what actually stayed in your 401(k) after the excess was returned.

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Quick question - does anyone know if the returned earnings portion of the excess contribution is subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty if you're under 59½? My plan administrator told me it might be, but I'm getting conflicting information.

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The earnings portion IS subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty if you're under 59½, while the excess contribution amount itself is not. This is because the earnings were never supposed to be in the plan to begin with.

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This is a really complex situation that trips up a lot of people! I went through something similar last year and want to add a few practical tips based on my experience: 1. Get everything in writing from HR - specifically the date they're processing the correction and confirmation about the W-2 correction that Zainab mentioned. My HR initially said "early 2025" which wasn't specific enough to determine if it fell within the 2.5 month window. 2. The 1099-R you receive will be key - it should have distribution code "8" in Box 7 for excess contributions returned due to failed ADP/ACP tests. Make sure to keep this with your tax records. 3. Don't forget that if you're getting earnings returned too (which is common), those earnings are taxable as ordinary income for the year being corrected (2024 if done by March 15, 2025). The earnings portion may also be subject to the 10% penalty if you're under 59½. 4. Consider talking to a tax professional if the amounts are significant. The interaction between the returned contributions, earnings, and how they affect your tax liability can get pretty complex, especially if you're near certain income thresholds for other tax benefits. The 2.5 month rule is real and it's specifically in the IRS regulations for 401(k) plan corrections. Your HR person is correct about the timing impact on which tax year is affected.

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This is such helpful advice! I'm dealing with this exact situation right now and your point about getting everything in writing is spot on. My HR department has been pretty vague about timing too - they just said "soon" when I asked about the correction date. One thing I'm wondering about - you mentioned talking to a tax professional if the amounts are significant. What would you consider "significant" in this context? I'm looking at about $3,000 being returned plus maybe $200-300 in earnings. Is that worth the cost of professional help, or should the tools and guidance mentioned in this thread be sufficient for most people? Also, do you know if there's a standard timeframe companies typically take to issue the corrected W-2s after processing the excess contribution return? I want to make sure I'm not filing my taxes before getting all the correct documentation.

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For $3,000-3,300 total, you're probably fine using the tools mentioned here rather than paying for professional help, unless you have other complex tax situations. That amount shouldn't push you into different tax brackets or significantly impact other deductions. Regarding W-2 timing - in my experience, companies usually issue corrected W-2s within 30-45 days after processing the excess contribution return. Since they need to correct the 401(k) deferral amount in Box 12, they can't really delay it too long. I'd suggest waiting until you receive both the 1099-R for the returned excess AND the corrected W-2 before filing. Filing with the wrong W-2 information and then having to amend is more hassle than just waiting a bit longer. You could also ask HR directly for their timeline on issuing corrected W-2s - they should have a process for this since non-discrimination test failures aren't uncommon.

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