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What happens if you make a $100K gift but don't file required gift tax return?

So I helped my daughter with a down payment on her first house last year. I transferred $100,000 to her account directly. I know there's some large lifetime exemption amount for gift taxes (like millions of dollars), and I'm nowhere near that limit. Since I wouldn't have had to actually pay any gift tax due to this lifetime exemption thing, I didn't bother filing the gift tax return paperwork. My accountant was out on medical leave during tax season and I just handled everything myself. Now I'm getting nervous - what happens if the IRS somehow discovers this gift transaction but I never filed that Form 709 gift tax return? Would there be penalties even though I wouldn't have owed any actual gift tax? Just realized maybe I messed up here.

While you wouldn't owe any gift tax due to the lifetime exemption (currently around $13.61 million per individual), you're still required to file Form 709 (Gift Tax Return) for any gift exceeding the annual exclusion amount (currently $18,000 per recipient). This filing is required even when no tax is due. If the IRS discovers the unreported gift, you could face penalties for failure to file, even without owing actual tax. The penalty is typically 5% of the tax due per month, up to 25%. Since your tax due would be $0, technically the penalty would calculate to $0 as well. However, the IRS can assess a minimum penalty for unfiled returns. More importantly, without filing the Form 709, you haven't officially claimed this $100,000 against your lifetime exemption, which could create documentation issues later in life or for your estate.

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Omar Fawzi

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Ok wait I'm confused. If the gift doesn't exceed the $18,000 annual exclusion, do you still need to file a form? My mom gives me exactly $18,000 every December and says she specifically keeps it at that amount so she doesn't have to file anything. Is she right?

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You're absolutely right - gifts at or below the annual exclusion amount ($18,000 per recipient for 2024) don't require filing Form 709. Your mom is handling it correctly by keeping her gifts at exactly $18,000, as this stays within the annual exclusion and requires no reporting. For gifts that exceed the annual exclusion amount, like the $100,000 in the original post, filing is required even when no tax is due because of the lifetime exemption. This is basically just tracking against that lifetime limit.

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Chloe Wilson

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I had almost the exact same situation last year when I gave my son $90k for his business startup. I was totally confused about all the paperwork and missed filing the gift tax return. I started panicking about potential penalties even though I knew I wouldn't owe actual tax because of the lifetime exemption thing. I found this tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that really helped me figure out my situation. You upload your documentation and it analyzes your tax situation, including unfiled forms like the gift tax return. It flagged that I needed to submit a late Form 709 and walked me through the process. Saved me tons of stress trying to figure out what to do after the fact.

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Diego Mendoza

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Does this tool actually help with filing the forms or just tells you what forms you need to file? I'm in a similar situation but with a $75k gift to my nephew for college and I have no idea where to even start with the 709.

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I'm skeptical about these tax tools. How does it actually know what forms you should've filed if you're asking it after the fact? Does it connect to your bank accounts or something? That seems sketchy.

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Chloe Wilson

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Ok I have to admit I was super skeptical about taxr.ai when I commented earlier, but I ended up trying it for my own situation (gave my parents $50k to pay off their mortgage last year). I was really surprised how straightforward it made everything. I uploaded my bank statements showing the transfers, answered a few questions, and it immediately identified I needed a Form 709 and helped me prepare it. What I found most helpful was the explanation about how the lifetime exemption works - I had no idea I still needed to file even though I wouldn't owe anything. The site actually showed me how to properly report the gift against my lifetime exemption amount. Much easier than the 3 hours I spent trying to decipher the IRS instructions!

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StellarSurfer

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Sean Kelly

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How much does this service cost? Seems like something the IRS should provide for free. I've been trying to get through to them for weeks about my missing refund.

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Zara Malik

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This sounds like a scam. How does some random service have better access to the IRS than regular people? I doubt they're actually getting you through to real IRS agents. Probably just people pretending to be IRS.

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StellarSurfer

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Zara Malik

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Luca Greco

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Just wanted to add - I'm a tax preparer (not a CPA) and see this situation all the time. Besides the potential failure-to-file penalties, there's another reason to make sure you file Form 709 even if you don't owe gift tax: documentation for basis adjustment purposes. If you're gifting appreciated assets (not cash), the recipient generally takes your basis. Proper gift tax filing creates a record of that basis transfer, which becomes important when they eventually sell the asset. Without documentation, they might have trouble proving their correct basis to the IRS later. Even for cash gifts, proper documentation through Form 709 helps ensure the lifetime exemption amount is properly tracked. You definitely want to file the form.

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Nia Thompson

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Does this apply to gifting stocks too? I transferred some Apple shares worth about $60k to my kid last year but didn't file anything. Do I need to worry about the basis thing or just the gift tax form?

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Luca Greco

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This absolutely applies to gifting stocks - it's actually one of the most important scenarios where documentation matters. When you gift stocks, your recipient takes your cost basis, not the value on the date of the gift (unlike inherited stocks which get a stepped-up basis). You need to file Form 709 to report the gift since it exceeds the annual exclusion amount. Additionally, you should provide your child with documentation showing your original purchase date and cost basis for those Apple shares. This will be crucial when they eventually sell the shares and need to calculate their capital gains.

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Quick question - does anyone know how the IRS even finds out about gifts? Like if I write my kid a check for $50k, how would they know? My accountant is saying I need to file a gift tax return but my buddy says nobody actually does this for family gifts.

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Aisha Hussain

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The IRS can discover unreported gifts multiple ways: 1. Bank reporting (banks report large transactions) 2. If recipient buys something big with the gift money (house, car) 3. Connection to other tax returns or audits 4. When your estate is settled after death I wouldn't risk it. Penalties can add up, and it can trigger scrutiny of other parts of your tax situation. Your accountant is giving you the correct advice.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - gave my son $85k for his wedding last year and completely forgot about the gift tax return requirement. Like you, I knew I wouldn't owe any actual tax because of the lifetime exemption, but I had no idea I still needed to file Form 709. After reading through all these comments, I'm definitely going to file the late return. It sounds like the penalties won't be too severe since there's no actual tax owed, but I don't want to risk having issues down the road when my estate gets settled or if the IRS discovers the gift some other way. The key thing I learned from this thread is that filing Form 709 isn't just about paying tax - it's about properly documenting the gift against your lifetime exemption and creating a paper trail. Better to handle it now than worry about it later, especially since banks do report large transactions and the IRS has multiple ways to discover unreported gifts.

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Carmen Diaz

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That's exactly the right approach! I'm in a similar boat - gave my daughter $75k for her graduate school last year and totally spaced on the Form 709 requirement. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been really helpful. What really clicked for me was the point about this being documentation rather than just tax payment. Even though we're not actually paying gift tax because of the lifetime exemption, we still need to officially "claim" that exemption amount on the form. Otherwise there's no official record that we've used part of our lifetime allowance. I'm also planning to file the late return soon. From what I've gathered here, the IRS is generally reasonable about late filings when no actual tax is owed, but having proper documentation will definitely make things smoother if questions come up later.

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Yuki Nakamura

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I'm in almost the exact same situation - gave my daughter $95k for her house down payment last year and completely missed filing Form 709. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful and honestly a huge relief. The key takeaway for me is that this is really about documentation rather than owing actual tax. Since we're nowhere near the lifetime exemption limit (around $13.61 million), we won't owe gift tax, but we still need to officially report it to "use up" that portion of our lifetime allowance. What's really concerning me now is the point someone made about banks reporting large transactions. I did a wire transfer directly from my account to hers, so there's definitely a paper trail the IRS could discover. I'd rather file the late return proactively than wait for them to find it and then have to explain why I never reported it. From what I'm gathering here, the penalties for late filing when no tax is actually owed should be minimal, but the peace of mind and proper documentation will be worth it. Definitely planning to get this sorted out ASAP.

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Dyllan Nantx

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You're absolutely right about being proactive with this! I was in a very similar situation - gave my nephew $80k for his business startup and completely forgot about Form 709. The wire transfer aspect is exactly what motivated me to file the late return too. One thing that helped ease my anxiety was learning that the IRS actually has a "reasonable cause" provision for late filings when no tax is owed. If you can show you made a good faith effort to comply (like having your accountant unavailable during tax season, as mentioned in the original post), they're often willing to waive penalties entirely. The documentation point is so important - without filing Form 709, there's no official record that you've used $95k of your lifetime exemption. This could potentially cause issues decades from now when estate planning becomes relevant. Better to handle it now while the details are fresh and you have all the supporting documents readily available.

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I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation as the original poster. I gave my son $110k last year to help with his first home purchase - direct bank transfer just like you described. I also handled my own taxes since my usual CPA was dealing with health issues, and I completely overlooked the Form 709 requirement. What really helped me understand the situation better was realizing this isn't about owing tax (since we're nowhere near that $13+ million lifetime limit), but about proper documentation. The IRS needs an official record that we've used that portion of our lifetime exemption, even when no actual tax is due. I ended up filing the late Form 709 about two months ago. The process wasn't as scary as I thought it would be - I included a reasonable cause statement explaining the circumstances (CPA unavailable, first-time large gift situation), and I haven't heard anything back from the IRS yet. From what I understand, when there's no actual tax owed, they're typically pretty reasonable about late filings, especially with documented reasonable cause. The peace of mind has been worth it. Better to be proactive and get it properly documented than worry about the IRS discovering that large wire transfer later and having to explain why it was never reported. Your situation with the accountant being on medical leave sounds like solid reasonable cause to me.

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Lola Perez

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That's really reassuring to hear about your experience filing the late Form 709! I'm in a very similar boat - gave my daughter $98k for her house last year and just realized I never filed the gift tax return. Like you, I was handling my own taxes for the first time and completely missed this requirement. Your point about reasonable cause makes me feel much better about my situation. I had been putting this off because I was worried about penalties, but it sounds like the IRS is generally understanding when there's no actual tax owed and you have a legitimate reason for the delay. I'm curious - when you filed the late return, did you have to pay any penalties at all, or did the reasonable cause statement cover everything? I'm planning to file mine within the next week or two and want to make sure I include all the right documentation with my reasonable cause explanation.

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