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What expenses can I include in 1125-A Line 5 - Other Costs for my business?

I'm working on my business taxes and trying to figure out what goes where on form 1125-A. Can anyone tell me if Line 5 - Other Costs is where I should put expenses like advertising, business travel, meals with clients, entertainment, office supplies, dues and subscriptions? I've got quite a few different business expenses and I'm not sure if they all go on this line or if some should go elsewhere. The instructions seem to cut off in the middle of explaining this section, and I'm worried about categorizing things incorrectly. This is my first year with substantial business expenses, so I want to make sure I'm doing this right.

Form 1125-A Line 5 "Other Costs" isn't actually where most of those expenses would go. The 1125-A is specifically for Cost of Goods Sold (COGS), so Line 5 is for other direct costs related to producing or acquiring your inventory. The expenses you mentioned (advertising, business travel, meals, entertainment, office supplies, dues, subscriptions) are generally business expenses that would go on Schedule C (if you're a sole proprietor) or Form 1120 (if you're a corporation) rather than on the COGS form. These are operating expenses, not direct costs of producing goods. Line 5 of Form 1125-A would typically include things like factory overhead, production supplies, or other direct costs that aren't materials, labor, or the other specific categories listed on the form.

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Mei Zhang

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Thanks for this explanation! So if I'm a freelance graphic designer who occasionally buys stock images for client projects, would those stock image purchases go on 1125-A Line 5 since they're directly used in creating my "product" for clients? Or would those still go on Schedule C?

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Stock images for client projects could potentially go either way, depending on how you structure your business. If you're billing clients specifically for those stock images (passing through the cost), they might be considered a direct cost for Form 1125-A. If the stock images are just part of your general business operations and you don't separately account for them as direct costs of specific products, they would more likely go on Schedule C as a regular business expense under "Supplies" or possibly "Other expenses.

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Liam McGuire

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From my experience doing business taxes for years, here's a quick reference for Form 1125-A Line 5 (Other Costs): DO include: Factory overhead, production supplies, packaging materials used in production, quality control costs, certain factory utilities DON'T include: Advertising, travel, meals, entertainment, office supplies, dues, subscriptions (these all go on your main business tax form as operating expenses) Remember that 1125-A is strictly for Cost of Goods Sold calculation, which means direct costs related to producing or acquiring inventory items. Hope this helps!

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QuantumQuest

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Thank you for this clear breakdown! What about software that I pay for specifically to design my products? Would that be considered a direct cost for 1125-A or just a regular business expense?

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Software specifically used to design your products falls into a bit of a gray area. The general rule is that if the software is directly and exclusively used in the production process itself, it could potentially be included in COGS on Form 1125-A. However, most design software is considered a business tool rather than a direct cost component of your goods, so it typically belongs on Schedule C or your main business tax form as a regular business expense, possibly under "Other expenses" with a description or under "Software" if your tax form has that category.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Does anyone know if tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block handles the 1125-A form correctly? I'm worried my software might put expenses in the wrong place if I just follow the interview questions.

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Ava Thompson

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I used TurboTax Business last year, and it actually does a pretty good job of separating COGS expenses for 1125-A from other business expenses. It specifically asks if costs are directly related to producing your goods when you enter expenses.

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CyberSiren

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Something nobody mentioned yet - if you're including costs on Line 5 of 1125-A, make sure you keep DETAILED records! The IRS scrutinizes "Other Costs" more carefully because people often misclassify expenses there. Save all receipts and documentation showing how these costs directly relate to producing your goods. I got audited last year partly because I had a large amount in "Other Costs" without sufficient documentation to prove they were actually COGS-related expenses. Learned my lesson the hard way!

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Ouch, that sounds stressful! Did the audit result in penalties or just having to recategorize the expenses?

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CyberSiren

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Fortunately, I only had to recategorize the expenses - they ended up on Schedule C instead of 1125-A, which didn't change my tax liability much. But the audit process itself was extremely time-consuming and stressful. If the recategorization had resulted in a significant tax difference, I would have faced penalties and interest. The IRS agent specifically told me that "Other Costs" on 1125-A is a common audit trigger because so many businesses use it incorrectly. Document everything and be prepared to explain how each cost directly relates to production!

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Yara Elias

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This is really helpful information everyone! As someone who's been struggling with business tax forms, I want to add that the IRS Publication 334 (Tax Guide for Small Business) has a decent section on Form 1125-A that might help clarify things. What I learned from reading it is that Line 5 "Other Costs" should only include costs that are both: 1) directly attributable to the goods you produce or sell, and 2) not already covered in the other specific lines on Form 1125-A. For most service businesses (like consulting, freelancing, etc.), you probably won't even need to file Form 1125-A at all since you don't have traditional "goods sold." The form is really meant for businesses that manufacture products or buy/sell inventory. If you're unsure whether your business needs this form, the general rule is: if you don't have beginning or ending inventory to track, you likely don't need 1125-A and should just put all your business expenses on Schedule C or the appropriate business tax form.

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Layla Mendes

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been stressing about whether I even need Form 1125-A for my freelance consulting business. Since I don't have any physical inventory - just providing services - it sounds like I can skip this form entirely and just use Schedule C for all my business expenses. Thank you for mentioning Publication 334 too. I've been relying on online forums and random websites, but getting the official IRS guidance makes so much more sense. Going to download that publication right now to make sure I understand the inventory requirements properly.

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Great point about Publication 334! I'd also recommend checking out IRS Publication 538 (Accounting Periods and Methods) which has additional guidance on what constitutes cost of goods sold versus business expenses. One thing I've learned from working with small businesses is that the "directly attributable" test mentioned by Yara is key. Ask yourself: "Would this cost exist if I wasn't producing this specific product?" If the answer is no, it might belong on 1125-A Line 5. If the cost would exist regardless (like general office supplies or advertising), it's probably a regular business expense for Schedule C. For anyone still confused about whether they need Form 1125-A at all, here's a simple test: Do you have raw materials, work-in-process inventory, or finished goods inventory that you track from year to year? If not, you're probably a service business and can skip 1125-A entirely. This applies to most consultants, freelancers, and service providers. The distinction matters because misclassifying expenses can affect your tax liability timing and potentially trigger audits, as CyberSiren mentioned above.

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This is incredibly helpful! I'm new to business taxes and have been completely overwhelmed trying to figure out what goes where. Your "directly attributable" test is such a simple way to think about it - I wish the IRS forms explained it that clearly. I think I've been overthinking this whole process. My business is mostly service-based (web design) with occasional physical deliverables like printed materials for clients. Based on what everyone's saying, it sounds like I probably don't need Form 1125-A at all since I don't carry inventory from year to year. Thank you for mentioning Publication 538 too - I'm going to read both that and 334 to make sure I understand this properly. It's reassuring to know there are official IRS resources that can clear up the confusion instead of just guessing based on forum posts!

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Melina Haruko

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I've been following this thread and wanted to share my experience as someone who went through this exact confusion last year. I run a small manufacturing business making custom furniture, and I was completely mixing up what belonged on Form 1125-A versus Schedule C. What finally clicked for me was understanding that Form 1125-A is ONLY for costs that directly go into making your products. For Line 5 "Other Costs," I include things like wood stain, sandpaper, protective finishes, and packaging materials - basically anything that becomes part of the finished product or is consumed during production. Meanwhile, my business insurance, advertising, truck payments for deliveries, and even my workshop rent all go on Schedule C because those are operating expenses that support the business but aren't directly incorporated into each piece of furniture I make. The key question I ask myself now is: "If I made 100 more units of this product, would this cost increase proportionally?" If yes, it's probably COGS for Form 1125-A. If it's a fixed cost that stays the same regardless of production volume, it goes on Schedule C. Hope this practical perspective helps others who are struggling with the same categorization issues!

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Diego Vargas

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This is such a perfect real-world example! Your "100 more units" test is brilliant - it makes the distinction between COGS and operating expenses so much clearer than the technical definitions in the tax forms. I love how you broke down your furniture business costs. The wood stain and sandpaper examples really help visualize what "directly incorporated into production" actually means in practice. And your point about workshop rent being a fixed operating cost regardless of how many pieces you make is exactly the kind of thinking that helps separate Form 1125-A expenses from Schedule C expenses. This thread has been incredibly educational - from the technical explanations to real business examples like yours. It's amazing how much clearer these tax concepts become when explained by people who've actually dealt with them rather than just reading the IRS instructions!

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Cass Green

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This entire discussion has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a hybrid situation where my business does both product sales and services, so I've been completely confused about when to use Form 1125-A versus just putting everything on Schedule C. Reading through everyone's experiences, I think I finally understand the key distinction. For my business, I sell handmade jewelry (physical products with inventory) AND offer custom design consultations (pure service). For the jewelry side, materials like silver wire, beads, clasps, and even the small jewelry boxes I put finished pieces in would go on Form 1125-A since they're directly incorporated into the final products I sell. But my design software subscription, business cards, website hosting, and consultation fees would all be Schedule C operating expenses. Melina's "100 more units" test is perfect for this - if I made 100 more necklaces, I'd need 100 more sets of materials and packaging, but I wouldn't need 100 times more website hosting or business insurance. The real lightbulb moment for me was Yara's point about service businesses often not needing Form 1125-A at all. For my consultation work, there's no inventory or direct production costs, so those revenues and related expenses stay entirely on Schedule C. Thank you everyone for sharing your real-world examples - this has been way more helpful than any official IRS publication I've tried to read!

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Zoey Bianchi

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Your hybrid business situation is exactly what I'm dealing with too! I run a small bakery where I sell both pre-made items (cookies, muffins) and custom cakes for events. Reading your jewelry example really helped me think through my own categorization issues. For my pre-made items, ingredients like flour, sugar, eggs, and packaging boxes would be Form 1125-A costs since they directly go into each product. But for custom cake consultations and design work, those would be pure service revenue on Schedule C with related expenses like design software and client meeting costs. The "100 more units" test is going to be my go-to from now on - it's so much clearer than trying to parse the technical IRS language. If I baked 100 more cookies, I'd need proportionally more ingredients and packaging, but my commercial kitchen rent and business license fees would stay the same. Thanks for breaking down your hybrid approach - it's reassuring to know other businesses face this same complexity and that there's a logical way to think through it!

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Lucas Bey

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This has been such an enlightening discussion! As someone who just started a small business this year, I was completely overwhelmed by Form 1125-A and had no idea what qualified for Line 5 "Other Costs." The real-world examples from Melina's furniture business and Cass's jewelry/consultation hybrid really drove home the core concept for me. I keep coming back to that "100 more units" test - it's such a practical way to distinguish between direct production costs (Form 1125-A) and general operating expenses (Schedule C). What I found most valuable was learning that many service-based businesses don't even need Form 1125-A at all. I was stressing about this form for my tutoring business, but since I don't have any physical inventory or raw materials, all my expenses (books, supplies, software subscriptions) just go on Schedule C as regular business expenses. For anyone else feeling overwhelmed by this form, I'd definitely recommend starting with the inventory question that several people mentioned: Do you track raw materials or finished goods from year to year? If not, you might be able to skip 1125-A entirely and focus on properly categorizing expenses on Schedule C instead. The documentation point from CyberSiren about keeping detailed records is also crucial - especially if you do have legitimate "Other Costs" for Line 5. The last thing anyone wants is an audit because of unclear expense categorization!

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