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Oscar Murphy

What are the tax implications of selling depreciated equipment before the full recovery period?

Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a pickle with some business equipment and hoping someone can help. Back in 2021, I purchased two pieces of equipment that work as a set for my business, costing about $28,000 total ($14,000 each). I fully depreciated them on my taxes that year using Section 179. Fast forward to 2022, and one of the machines completely broke down. The repair estimate was around $25,000 - almost double what I paid for it! Since these machines only function as a pair, I can't operate with just one working piece. I asked my accountant about selling the equipment, but she warned me that I'd have to pay back taxes to the IRS if I sell before the full recovery period (she mentioned something about a 3-year period). So now I'm stuck with expensive paperweights that I can't use AND can't sell without a tax hit. Is there any way around this? Can I somehow dispose of this equipment without having to pay back the depreciation? It's just sitting in my warehouse taking up space until I can apparently sell it without tax consequences. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Nora Bennett

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What you're dealing with is called "recapture" and it happens when you sell Section 179 property before the end of its useful life. When you took the full deduction in 2021, you essentially got a tax benefit for an asset that was supposed to last several years. For equipment like yours, the recovery period is typically 5 years, not 3 (though there are exceptions). If you sell before that period ends, you have to "recapture" some of the depreciation as ordinary income. The good news is you have some options: 1. Since one piece is completely broken, you might qualify for a "casualty loss" if the breakdown was sudden and unexpected (not just normal wear and tear). This could offset some of the recapture. 2. You could look into a like-kind exchange (Section 1031) for the working piece, though these are more complex and require professional guidance. 3. Consider if insurance might cover some of the loss if the breakdown was covered under a policy. The recapture rules can be complicated, so I'd recommend getting a second opinion from another tax professional who specializes in business equipment.

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Oscar Murphy

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Thanks for the detailed response. The breakdown was pretty sudden - a major electronic component failed that essentially fried several other parts. Would that qualify as a "casualty loss"? My current tax preparer never mentioned this option. Also, how would a like-kind exchange work for just one piece when they're meant to be used as a set? Would I need to find someone willing to take both pieces (one broken, one working)?

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Nora Bennett

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For a casualty loss, sudden and unexpected failure of a major component could potentially qualify, especially if it was due to something like a power surge or similar unexpected event. It's different from gradual deterioration. Your tax preparer may not have considered this angle, which is why a second opinion could help. For a like-kind exchange, you'd trade the working equipment for similar property used in your business. The broken equipment would likely be considered worthless and might qualify for an abandonment loss. You'd need to document that you've truly abandoned it (not just stored it), and that it has no salvage value. This gets technical, so you'd definitely want a tax pro to guide you through the specifics of your situation.

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Admin_Masters

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Another option worth exploring is abandonment loss. If the equipment is truly worthless and you formally abandon it (document this!), you might be able to claim an ordinary loss deduction rather than dealing with recapture. To qualify, you'd need to show: 1) Intent to abandon the property 2) An affirmative act of abandonment 3) The property has no salvage value Make sure to document this properly - take photos, get written statements about the non-working condition, and formally document your decision to abandon the property.

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Oscar Murphy

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This sounds promising! Does abandonment also work when it's just one part of a set? The second piece still works fine on its own, but is useless to me without its pair. Would I need to abandon both pieces to qualify?

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Admin_Masters

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For a matching set like yours, it gets a bit tricky. You might need to abandon both pieces if they were purchased and depreciated as a single unit on your tax forms. However, if they were listed as separate assets, you could potentially abandon just the broken one. The key is how they were treated on your original depreciation schedules. If they were treated as separate assets with individual values, you have more flexibility. Check your prior year tax returns and depreciation schedules to see how they were originally recorded. This will determine your best path forward.

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Have you considered selling the working piece for parts and scrapping the broken one? I had a similar situation with some CNC equipment. My tax guy said that if I sold it for significantly less than the depreciated value, I could actually claim a loss on the transaction. The key was documenting the fair market value properly and getting a professional appraisal to support the reduced value.

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Ella Thompson

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This is smart. We did something similar with restaurant equipment. You can also donate the working piece to a vocational school or similar nonprofit for a charitable deduction, which might offset some of the recapture tax. Just make sure to get a proper valuation and documentation.

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Amina Bah

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I went through something very similar with manufacturing equipment last year. One thing that really helped was getting a formal assessment from a certified equipment appraiser to document the actual condition and fair market value of both pieces. In my case, the appraiser determined that the "working" piece of my set had significantly diminished value because it couldn't function without its counterpart. This helped establish that both pieces had suffered a loss in value due to the failure of one component. The appraisal cost me about $400, but it saved me thousands in recapture taxes because I was able to demonstrate that the fair market value of the entire system had dropped below my remaining basis. This allowed me to treat it as a casualty loss rather than a sale with recapture. Make sure to get the appraisal done soon though - the IRS wants to see that the valuation reflects the condition at the time of the loss, not months later. Also keep all your repair estimates and documentation about why the equipment can't be economically repaired.

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