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Oliver Becker

Tax Implications When Closing a Business with Section 179 Vehicles and Equipment

I've been consulting with my tax guy about this situation but want to make sure I'm getting the right advice before I make any moves. It's important enough that I'm considering hiring another CPA for a second opinion, but figured I'd check here first before spending more money. I run a sole proprietorship - everything's just in my personal name. Over the years, I've accumulated dozons of pieces of equipment - dozers, backhoes, dump trailers, work trucks, etc. - all 100% used for business purposes. I've taken Section 179 deductions on everything when I put them into service. I'm planning to retire in about 4-5 years and want to keep a good portion of this equipment for my personal use on a small farm I plan to purchase. I'm not selling the business, just winding it down. My understanding is that when I take a Section 179 deduction, the cost basis goes to zero. So if I bought a backhoe for $95k and took the full 179 deduction that year (my business profit was well above that amount), I got the tax break. I know that if I sold that backhoe later for $60k, I'd pay ordinary income tax on the full $60k. But here's my question: What if I just keep the equipment? I'm closing the business but not selling anything. My accountant tells me since everything is already in my name (sole prop), I don't have to "buy" it from myself, and if I'm not selling to anyone else, there's no taxable event. Since I don't have to transfer titles from a business entity to my personal name (except for the trucks and trailers which have titles), there's nothing that triggers a tax. Does this sound right? Or am I missing something that could come back to haunt me later?

Your accountant is mostly right, but there's a detail worth understanding here. With a sole proprietorship, you and your business are legally the same entity for tax purposes. The equipment is already "yours" - there's no separate business entity that owns it. When you take a Section 179 deduction, you're basically accelerating depreciation to get an immediate write-off instead of spreading it over many years. The tax code doesn't require you to "recapture" that deduction when you simply convert business property to personal use - as long as you don't sell it. What does change is that you can no longer take any business deductions related to that equipment (maintenance, repairs, fuel, etc.) once you convert it to personal use. And if you later decide to sell any of this equipment after conversion to personal use, you'd still pay ordinary income tax on the full amount since your basis is zero. Just make sure you document when you officially close the business and convert the property to personal use. Also, for titled vehicles, you might need to adjust registration and insurance, but that's not a tax issue.

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Oliver Becker

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Thanks for the detailed explanation. So am I understanding correctly that when I officially close the business, that's when the equipment "converts" to personal use? Is there some specific form or documentation I need to prepare for the IRS to show this conversion happened? Also, what about property taxes? Right now I pay business property taxes on this equipment. Will that change when it becomes personal?

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The "conversion" happens when you stop using the equipment for business and start using it personally. There's no specific IRS form for this conversion - you simply stop claiming business expenses for that equipment on your Schedule C starting in the year of conversion. For documentation, keep records showing when your business officially closed or when each piece of equipment was converted to personal use. This could be a written statement or log you maintain, along with your final Schedule C that shows the business ending. Regarding property taxes, that depends on your local tax authority. In many places, personal property tax rates differ between business and personal property. You should notify your local tax assessor about the change in use so they can adjust your property tax bills accordingly. Some jurisdictions may have lower rates for personal property compared to business equipment.

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Something everyone's missing here - make sure you've kept those assets in service for the FULL recapture period! If you took Section 179 on a tractor 3 years ago and convert it to personal use before the 5-year period is up, you WILL trigger recapture of the deduction proportional to the remaining years. Also, document EVERYTHING about when your business officially closed. Keep copies of final Schedule C, any business license terminations, and create a detailed inventory of all equipment with photos showing odometer/hour meter readings at conversion date. I went through this 2 years ago and got audited. The documentation saved me thousands because I could prove exactly when each piece of equipment converted from business to personal use.

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Oliver Becker

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This is really helpful - my accountant never mentioned anything about a recapture period! How do I calculate this for different types of equipment? Are tractors 5 years and trucks something different? How do you determine when the recapture period starts and ends?

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The recapture period follows the normal depreciation class life of the asset. For most farm and construction equipment (like tractors and excavators), it's 5 years. For light trucks and cars, it's also 5 years. For trailers and some specialized equipment, it can be 7 years. The recapture period starts in the tax year you place the equipment in service and take the Section 179 deduction. So if you bought a tractor in 2021 and took Section 179 that year, the recapture period would be 2021-2025. If you convert to personal use before the period ends, you'll need to recapture the deduction proportionally. For example, if you convert a $50,000 piece of 5-year equipment after only 3 years of business use, you'd recapture 2/5 of the original deduction as ordinary income.

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Omar Zaki

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One thing that's important - if you live in a state that has different Section 179 limits than federal (like we do in Minnesota), make sure you understand how the state will treat the business-to-personal conversion too! When I closed my construction business, the feds didn't require recapture for equipment held long enough, but my state had different rules and I got hit with an unexpected state tax bill. Some states follow federal treatment but others have their own quirky rules.

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Good point! Here in California, we have to deal with the Franchise Tax Board rules which aren't always in sync with IRS rules. Plus we have to file annual business personal property statements with the county assessor for business equipment worth over $100k. When converting to personal use, you need to notify them too.

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Emma Wilson

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This is exactly the kind of situation where getting multiple professional opinions is worth it. Your accountant's advice sounds correct for the basic federal tax treatment, but there are several layers to consider that could affect your specific situation. Since you're in a sole proprietorship, you're right that there's no entity transfer - the equipment is already legally yours. The key issues to watch for are: 1) Making sure you've held everything past the Section 179 recapture period (usually 5 years for most equipment), 2) Properly documenting the conversion date for each piece of equipment, and 3) Understanding any state-specific requirements that might differ from federal treatment. I'd strongly recommend creating a detailed spreadsheet showing each piece of equipment, the original Section 179 deduction date, and when the recapture period expires. This will help you plan the timing of your business closure and conversion to personal use. Also consider getting that second CPA opinion you mentioned - especially one who specializes in business transitions. The stakes are high enough with dozens of pieces of equipment that having absolute clarity is worth the extra cost.

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Nolan Carter

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This is really solid advice about getting multiple professional opinions. I'm curious though - when you're creating that spreadsheet to track recapture periods, do you base the start date on when you purchased the equipment or when you actually filed the tax return claiming the Section 179 deduction? Also, for someone like me who's new to understanding these rules, is there a good resource to look up the specific depreciation class life for different types of equipment? I'm seeing 5 years mentioned for most things, but I want to make sure I'm not missing any exceptions for specialized equipment.

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