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Aisha Rahman

Tax implications of keeping Section 179 equipment when closing a sole proprietorship business

I've been talking to my CPA about this situation, but want to make sure I'm getting the right advice. Important enough that I might actually pay for a second opinion, but figured I'd check here first. I run a sole proprietorship excavation business - everything's just in my name, no separate entity. Over the years, I've purchased various equipment - backhoes, bulldozers, dump trucks, trailers, etc. I've taken the Section 179 deduction on all of them when purchased, bringing the cost basis to zero. The business has been profitable enough that I've always been able to take the full deduction. Looking at retiring in about 4-5 years, but here's the thing - I want to keep a lot of this equipment for my personal use. I'm planning to buy some acreage and will need the equipment for maintaining the property. I understand that if I sell equipment after taking a 179 deduction, I'd pay ordinary income tax on the sale (like if I bought something for $150k, took the 179, then sold it years later for $85k, I'd pay tax on that $85k). But what happens if I simply close my business and keep using the equipment personally? My accountant says since everything's already in my name (no separate business entity), there's no "sale" taking place, so no taxable event. For titled vehicles, they're already in my name anyway. This seems too good to be true - can I really just keep all this equipment without any tax implications? Surely the IRS has thought of this...

Ethan Wilson

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Your accountant is mostly correct, but there's a small detail that matters here. When you use Section 179 equipment for business, then later convert it to personal use without selling it, you're not creating a "sale" in the traditional sense. But you are changing the use of the asset. Here's how it typically works: When you convert business property to personal use, it's treated as if you "sold" it to yourself at fair market value at the time of conversion. The difference between that FMV and your adjusted basis (zero in your case due to Section 179) would technically be recapturable as ordinary income. However, here's the practical reality that many advisors will tell you - for a sole proprietorship specifically, this conversion is extremely difficult for the IRS to track or enforce since the property was always in your name anyway. This is different from an S-Corp or LLC where there's a clearer separation. I'd recommend documenting the fair market value of each piece of equipment at the time you close the business to have support if ever questioned. And definitely get that second opinion to ensure your specific situation doesn't have complications I'm not seeing.

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Yuki Sato

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Wait - so are you saying the IRS would expect someone to pay taxes on equipment they already bought, just because they're using it differently? That seems crazy. If I 179'd a truck 6 years ago and now want to use it for personal camping trips, I have to somehow "buy it from myself"? How would the IRS even know?

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Ethan Wilson

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The IRS expects you to pay taxes on any "gain" when business assets are converted to personal use. Since Section 179 reduced your basis to zero, the entire fair market value at time of conversion could be considered a gain. It's not about buying from yourself - it's about the tax benefit you already received. As for how they'd know - they typically wouldn't unless you're audited or there's some obvious discrepancy. But that doesn't mean the tax law doesn't require it. Especially with larger equipment like excavators worth tens of thousands, it's not a technicality I'd personally ignore. This is why documentation of FMV at conversion is important.

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One thing nobody's mentioned - if you're going to keep business equipment for personal use, make sure you actually STOP claiming any expenses related to it on Schedule C after your business closes. That's a huge red flag. I have a friend who kept his business truck, continued to use it partially for odd jobs, and kept deducting maintenance and insurance. Got absolutely hammered in an audit because he couldn't prove the ongoing business use after he'd officially "closed" his business. So if you're keeping that equipment, be super clear about when business use stops and personal use begins. Update your insurance too - business equipment insurance is different from personal.

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Aisha Rahman

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Thats an excellent point that I hadn't considered. Since I'll be using the equipment on my personal property, I certainly don't want it looking like I'm still running a business. Will need to make a clear transition date when the business officially closes and stop tracking those expenses as business deductions. How did they handle the insurance transition? Did they just cancel the business policy and start a new personal one?

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They just switched from a commercial auto policy to a personal auto policy with a rider for occasional towing and heavy use. Rates actually went down a bit. For non-vehicle equipment like tractors and such, they got a personal property policy that specifically covered the equipment. The key was having documentation showing when they officially closed the business - final tax return with zero income, formal business dissolution if you have anything filed with the state, final Schedule C, etc. Make that transition crystal clear in your records.

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Amara Nwosu

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I closed my landscaping business last year and kept about $80k worth of equipment that I had taken Section 179 on. My accountant had me document the fair market value of each piece when I closed, and I did pay tax on that value (painful but legal). What I wish I'd known beforehand was that if you plan ahead, you could potentially avoid some of this tax hit by stopping the Section 179 deductions a few years before closing. If you use regular depreciation instead on equipment you know you'll keep, your basis won't be zero when you convert it. Too late for equipment you've already 179'd, but if you're buying new stuff in these last few years before retirement, consider whether maximum upfront deduction makes sense if you'll keep the equipment.

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AstroExplorer

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Did you just write a check to the IRS for the FMV at closing? Or was there some kind of form you had to file? I'm going through this exact situation and my accountant seems uncertain about the process.

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ThunderBolt7

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This is a really complex area where the technical rules and practical enforcement can be quite different. From what I've seen in my own tax preparation practice, the IRS position is clear: converting Section 179 equipment from business to personal use is technically a taxable event at fair market value, even for sole proprietorships. However, the practical reality is that many sole proprietors do exactly what your accountant suggests - they simply stop using the equipment for business without formally "converting" it, and this rarely gets scrutinized unless there's an audit for other reasons. If you want to be completely above board, you should: 1. Document fair market value of each piece of equipment when you close the business 2. Report the conversion as income on your final tax return 3. Establish clear documentation showing when business use ended The middle ground approach many take is to document the FMV but not proactively report it unless asked. Not tax advice, but that's the reality of how this often plays out. Given the amounts involved with heavy equipment, I'd lean toward being conservative and reporting it properly. Your second CPA opinion is definitely worth getting - this is exactly the kind of situation where different practitioners might give you different advice based on their risk tolerance.

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LunarEclipse

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This is really helpful to see the perspective from someone who actually prepares taxes professionally. The distinction between "technical rules" and "practical enforcement" is exactly what's been confusing me about this whole situation. I'm leaning toward the conservative approach you mentioned - properly documenting FMV and reporting the conversion. Even though it'll be a significant tax hit, I'd rather sleep well at night knowing I handled it correctly than worry about an audit down the road. With excavation equipment, we're talking about assets that are pretty visible and trackable compared to smaller business equipment. One question though - when you say "report the conversion as income on your final tax return," would this just go on Schedule C as other income, or is there a specific form for asset conversions like this?

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Freya Thomsen

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As a tax professional, I want to clarify something important about reporting the conversion. You wouldn't report it as "other income" on Schedule C since you're closing the business. Instead, the Section 179 recapture gets reported on Form 4797 (Sales of Business Property) as ordinary income from depreciation recapture. Here's the process: when you convert business property to personal use, it's treated as a "sale" at fair market value. Since your adjusted basis is zero due to Section 179, the entire FMV becomes recapturable depreciation under Section 1245. This gets reported on Form 4797, Part III, and flows to your Form 1040 as ordinary income. The key documentation you'll need: - Original purchase price and date for each asset - Section 179 deduction amounts claimed - Fair market value appraisal or documentation at conversion date - Clear evidence of when business use ended I'd also recommend getting written appraisals for your higher-value equipment (excavators, bulldozers) rather than just estimates. If the IRS ever questions the FMV, you'll want solid support for your valuations. The cost of professional appraisals is usually worth it for equipment worth tens of thousands. One more tip - if any equipment is financed, make sure the lender knows about the use change. Some commercial equipment loans have restrictions on personal use.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was hoping to find! Thank you for breaking down the Form 4797 process - that makes so much more sense than trying to figure out where this would go on Schedule C. The point about getting professional appraisals for the higher-value equipment is well taken. I have a couple of excavators and a bulldozer that are probably worth $60k+ each, so the cost of proper appraisals will be minimal compared to the potential tax implications if the IRS questions my valuations. One follow-up question - for the timing of when to get these appraisals, should I do it right when I officially close the business, or can I wait until I'm actually preparing the tax return? I'm planning to wind down operations over the next few months but won't officially close until early next year.

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