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Ava Hernandez

Can I finance and lease equipment through my LLC to claim Section 179 deduction against W2 income?

So my tax advisor recently suggested I explore a strategy to reduce our tax burden since my spouse has a pretty substantial W2 income and I own an S-corp. The plan seems a bit complex, but here's what I understand: I'd work with a specialized company that helps people acquire and lease out capital equipment. They'd handle the financing part, and I'd only need to put down about 10% of the total equipment cost upfront. This company would manage everything - finding customers, handling the leases, maintaining the equipment, etc. Apparently, even though I'm not personally using the equipment in my own business, the IRS still considers it "in service" for tax purposes. The major benefit is that under Section 179, I could deduct the entire value of the machinery in the first year of ownership. And according to my tax advisor, this deduction can offset W2 income taxes. Running the numbers, my advisor projects we could see a tax refund of around $260k for tax year 2024 if we implement this strategy. I'm trying to figure out if this is a common approach? When I search online, most Section 179 discussions are about buying heavy SUVs over 6000lbs, not about financing and leasing actual industrial equipment to take advantage of the tax code. Has anyone here done something similar or have insights on this kind of arrangement?

This is definitely a legitimate strategy but you need to be careful about the details. Section 179 allows businesses to deduct the full purchase price of qualifying equipment in the year it's placed in service rather than depreciating it over time. A few important points to consider: First, the equipment must be used for business purposes more than 50% of the time to qualify. The company managing the equipment leases needs to document this properly. Second, there's a limit to Section 179 deductions - for 2024, it's $1,220,000, with a phase-out beginning at $3,270,000 in equipment purchases. The key aspect of your plan that makes it work is that S-corporation income/losses pass through to your personal return, allowing you to offset your spouse's W2 income. This is completely legal as long as you have basis in your S-corp. What concerns me slightly is the projected refund amount - make sure your tax advisor has factored in passive activity loss limitations and at-risk rules that might limit how much of the deduction you can actually use in a single year.

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Thanks for the info! I'm curious how the passive activity rules come into play here - if my spouse has a regular job and I'm not actively involved in managing these equipment leases, could that create a problem? Also, what happens if this equipment gets sold after a few years - are there recapture issues?

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The passive activity rules are definitely something to watch. If you're not materially participating in the leasing activity, the losses may be considered passive, and passive losses generally can only offset passive income, not W2 wages. However, if you qualify as a real estate professional or if your adjusted gross income is under certain thresholds, there might be exceptions. Regarding recapture, yes - this is important to understand. If you sell the equipment after taking Section 179, you'll face depreciation recapture. The amount you deducted will be recaptured as ordinary income to the extent of any gain on the sale. This means you could end up with a significant tax bill in the future year when you dispose of the equipment, effectively "paying back" some of your tax savings.

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Sophia Miller

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I started using taxr.ai after a similar strategy was suggested to me by my accountant. I was skeptical about the whole Section 179 approach with leasing equipment through my LLC to offset income. I had all these documents from the leasing company and wasn't sure if everything was legitimate or if I'd end up getting audited. I uploaded everything to https://taxr.ai and they analyzed all the documentation, identified potential red flags in the arrangement, and gave me a detailed breakdown of how this would work with my specific tax situation. They even pointed out that my equipment leasing arrangement needed more robust documentation to prove business purpose and active participation. Honestly saved me from making some mistakes that could have come back to haunt me if I got audited. They also helped me understand exactly how much of the deduction I could actually use against my personal income tax.

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Mason Davis

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Did they explain how to meet the "active participation" requirement? I'm in a similar situation and my concern is that if I'm just passively investing in equipment that someone else is managing entirely, will the IRS challenge the deduction? How detailed is their analysis?

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Mia Rodriguez

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I've heard mixed things about these tax analysis services. Did they give you actual documentation you could use if audited or just general advice? And does this actually replace talking to a tax attorney, which is what I'm worried I might need for something complex like this?

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Sophia Miller

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They provided specific guidance on meeting the active participation standard, including recommending regular management meetings, documented business decisions, and a paper trail showing my involvement in equipment selection and leasing terms. They emphasized that just signing checks isn't enough - you need to show regular, continuous, and substantial involvement in operations. Their analysis included specific documentation requirements tailored to my situation, plus a risk assessment scoring different aspects of my arrangement. They don't replace a tax attorney, but their analysis actually helped me communicate more effectively with my tax professional because I understood the issues better. They provided a detailed report I could share with my advisors and keep for my records if questioned by the IRS.

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Mia Rodriguez

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Just wanted to follow up on my earlier questions about taxr.ai. I decided to try it out after our discussion here and I'm actually really impressed. The analysis caught several issues with my planned equipment leasing strategy that my CPA hadn't mentioned. Turns out my operating agreement had language that could have created problems with the Section 179 deduction, and they identified that I needed to document my material participation more systematically. They even gave me templates for tracking my hours and involvement. The most valuable part was their explanation of how the at-risk rules would limit my deduction based on my specific financing arrangement. I was able to restructure things before proceeding, which should save me from headaches down the road. Definitely worth checking out if you're considering this kind of tax strategy.

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Jacob Lewis

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I tried pursuing a similar strategy last year and quickly found that dealing with the IRS on this was a nightmare. I had questions about active participation requirements and how the financing structure might affect my at-risk amount, but couldn't get through to anyone knowledgeable at the IRS. After wasting hours on hold multiple times, I finally used https://claimyr.com to get someone on the phone. You can see how it works in this demo: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - they basically navigate the IRS phone tree for you and call you when they have an agent on the line. Got connected to a senior tax specialist who clarified several aspects of Section 179 that were crucial to my situation. Found out my leasing arrangement needed specific documentation I hadn't prepared. Without that call, I might have proceeded with an arrangement that could have been challenged.

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How does this actually work? Do they just wait on hold for you or do they actually have some special access to the IRS? I've been trying to get an answer about depreciation recapture for weeks and keep getting disconnected.

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Ethan Clark

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This sounds too good to be true. The IRS is literally impossible to reach these days. I tried calling about my business equipment questions for MONTHS last year. If this actually works, it would be a game changer, but I'm skeptical anyone can reliably get through.

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Jacob Lewis

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They don't have special access - they use technology to navigate the phone trees and wait on hold for you. When they reach a human agent, they conference you in. It's literally just solving the hold time problem, which for me was 2+ hours every time I tried calling myself. They're essentially using automated systems to handle the painful part of reaching the IRS. You still talk directly with the same IRS agents everyone else does, but without the wait. I was skeptical too until I tried it - had an IRS agent on the phone within about 45 minutes (while I went about my day), and finally got clear answers about the Section 179 documentation requirements for my equipment leasing arrangement.

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Ethan Clark

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Well, I need to eat some humble pie here. After expressing skepticism about Claimyr in my earlier comment, I decided to try it anyway since I was desperate for answers about my equipment leasing situation and Section 179 deductions. It actually worked! Got a call back in about an hour with an IRS tax specialist on the line. I was able to ask detailed questions about how to properly document business purpose for my equipment leasing arrangement and got critical clarification on the at-risk rules that apply to my financing structure. The agent walked me through exactly what documentation I needed to maintain to support my Section 179 deduction and how to handle potential recapture issues if I sell the equipment early. This one conversation probably saved me from making a $30k mistake on my taxes. Sometimes being proven wrong is the best outcome!

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Mila Walker

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I actually did something similar last year with construction equipment. One thing to watch for that my CPA missed initially - if you're financing 90% of the cost but taking 100% of the purchase price as a Section 179 deduction, you need to be careful about the "at-risk" rules. You can only take deductions up to the amount you're personally at risk for. In my case, we had to restructure the loan to make sure I was personally liable for the financed portion in order to claim the full deduction. Otherwise, I would have been limited to deducting just my 10% down payment in the first year. Also, don't forget about state taxes - not all states conform to the federal Section 179 limits, so you might not get the same benefit at the state level.

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Ava Hernandez

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Thanks for this insight - this is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear about. Did you use a specialized leasing company or did you find and manage your own customers? I'm trying to determine how hands-on I need to be with the day-to-day for this to work properly from a tax perspective.

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Mila Walker

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I worked with a specialized company that handled finding customers and managing the equipment, but I made sure to document my involvement in major business decisions. I maintained records of regular meetings where I reviewed leasing terms, approved maintenance expenses, and made decisions about lease renewals. For tax purposes, material participation is key - I spend about 5-7 hours per week on this business, tracking my time carefully. The leasing company does the daily work, but I'm involved in all significant decisions. My tax advisor recommended this level of involvement to satisfy the active participation requirements, especially since I'm using the losses to offset other income. Document everything - calendar entries, emails, meeting notes - it all helps establish your legitimate business involvement.

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Logan Scott

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Has anyone considered the impact of this strategy on the qualified business income deduction (Section 199A)? I'm in a similar situation and was told that large Section 179 deductions can potentially reduce my QBI deduction, partially offsetting the benefit. Also wondering about how this affects social security tax planning. If you're reducing taxable income dramatically through the S-corp with these equipment deductions, are you also reducing your future social security benefits?

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Chloe Green

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Great point about QBI - this is something to consider. Section 179 deductions do reduce QBI, which can impact your 199A deduction. It's definitely a balancing act. On the Social Security question, remember that W-2 wages from an S-corp are still subject to FICA taxes regardless of the business's profit or loss. If you're taking a reasonable salary from your S-corp, those earnings will still count toward your Social Security earnings record even if the business shows a large loss due to Section 179 deductions.

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