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Understanding taxes on stock short sales - when do you get taxed and how to handle existing positions?

So I've been researching short selling stocks and I'm confused about the tax implications. When exactly does the taxable event happen? If I borrow shares from my broker and immediately sell them short, am I taxed right when I get that cash? Or does the taxable event only happen later when I close out the position by buying back the shares? I'm also wondering about a specific scenario - I already own some shares of the same stock I want to short (been holding them for about 6 years now). If I short the stock, could I just use my existing shares to cover the short position instead of buying new ones? And if I did that, would it count as a long-term capital gain since I've owned those original shares for 6+ years? I'm thinking maybe this is a way to avoid creating a short-term gain, but I'm not sure if the IRS would view it that way. Any insights would be super helpful before I pull the trigger on this strategy!

The tax implications of short selling can definitely be confusing! To answer your first question: you're not taxed when you initially sell the borrowed shares. The taxable event happens when you close the position (cover your short). About using shares you already own - this is called a "short against the box" strategy. While it seems logical that you could just deliver your long-held shares to close the short position and claim long-term treatment, the IRS doesn't quite see it that way. The tax code treats the short sale and your existing long position as separate transactions. When you close a short position, it's typically treated as short-term or long-term based on how long the short position was open, not how long you've owned other shares of the same stock. Additionally, be aware of the "constructive sale" rules that the IRS implemented specifically to address situations like this. If you short against the box, you might trigger a constructive sale of your long position, which could create a taxable event for those shares you've held for 6 years.

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Thanks for explaining this! So just to make sure I understand - even though I've held some shares for 6 years, if I use them to cover a short position I just opened, the gain/loss would still be considered based on the short position's holding period? That seems odd since I'm not actually buying anything new, just transferring shares I already own. Also, what exactly is a "constructive sale"? Would that mean I'd have to pay taxes on my 6-year position even if I don't actually sell those shares directly?

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When you close a short position using shares you already own, you're still closing out the short sale transaction which has its own tax treatment. The IRS views this as two separate transactions: your original purchase of shares (the long position) and your short sale. Each has its own tax implications. A "constructive sale" is when the IRS treats certain transactions as if you've sold an asset, even when you technically haven't sold it directly. The constructive sale rules were created specifically to prevent the tax deferral strategy you're considering. If you short against the box, the IRS may treat this as if you've sold your long position, triggering capital gains tax on those 6-year-old shares, even though you still own them. This was implemented in 1997 specifically to close this tax planning loophole.

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Wait, how does this actually work? The IRS phone system is notoriously awful - are you saying this service somehow gets you to the front of the queue? That seems too good to be true.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is the potential for wash sale complications with short selling. If you sell shares at a loss and then enter a short position within 30 days before or after, the IRS might disallow the loss under wash sale rules. I learned this the hard way last year when I sold some underwater tech stocks, then shortly after decided to short the same companies because I thought they'd fall further. My tax software flagged it as a wash sale and I couldn't claim the loss.

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Does that wash sale rule also apply if you're closing a short position at a loss and then opening a long position within 30 days? I'm trying to figure out if the rule works both ways.

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Yes, the wash sale rule absolutely applies in both directions. If you close a short position at a loss and then purchase the same or substantially identical securities within the 30-day window before or after, that loss will be disallowed. It gets even more complicated if you're trading options alongside your stock positions. For example, buying call options within 30 days of closing a short stock position at a loss can also trigger the wash sale rule. The IRS considers these "substantially identical" securities, even though they're different instruments.

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FYI for anyone interested in short selling - the tax reporting on your 1099-B can be a total nightmare. My broker reported my short sales in a really confusing way last year. Box 1a showed proceeds from the short sale (when I sold the borrowed shares), but the cost basis in Box 1e was reported as $0 since technically I hadn't purchased anything yet. Then when I closed the position months later, it showed up as a separate transaction with the purchase price as my cost basis. Made it look like I had a huge gain on the first transaction and then a completely separate transaction later. TurboTax couldn't handle it properly without manual adjustments.

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I ran into the same issue with my 1099-B! Had to manually combine the transactions to properly report the gain/loss. Did you find any tax software that handles this correctly? I spent hours fixing this last year.

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The 1099-B reporting issue you mentioned is exactly why I switched to FreeTaxUSA last year. It has a specific section for adjusting short sale transactions where you can manually link the opening and closing transactions together. You enter both the short sale date and the covering date, and it calculates the proper gain/loss and holding period. I also learned that some brokers will issue a corrected 1099-B if you contact them about short sale reporting errors. Schwab actually sent me an amended form after I pointed out that they had incorrectly split my short-against-the-box transactions across multiple tax lots. Worth checking with your broker before spending hours manually adjusting everything. One tip: keep detailed records of your short sale dates and covering dates separate from what the broker reports. The IRS matching system sometimes flags discrepancies when the 1099-B doesn't clearly show the complete short sale cycle.

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This is really helpful advice about FreeTaxUSA! I've been struggling with H&R Block's handling of my short positions. Quick question - when you manually link the opening and closing transactions in FreeTaxUSA, does it automatically handle the wash sale calculations if you have overlapping positions? I have several short sales that I closed and reopened within the 30-day window, and I'm worried about missing wash sale adjustments that could trigger an audit. Also, regarding keeping separate records - do you just use a simple spreadsheet or is there a specific format the IRS prefers if they ever ask for documentation of your short sale cycles?

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