Understanding Tax Exempt vs. Non-exempt: Do exempt employees not pay federal taxes? Is non-exempt better for tax refunds?
So I'm super confused about this whole exempt vs. non-exempt thing on my W-4. I checked "exempt" on my form because I thought that meant I WANT my taxes taken out of each paycheck. But now I'm worried I did the exact opposite?? I think I might have accidentally said "yes" to exempt meaning I DON'T want taxes taken away. Can someone please explain which option I should choose if I want taxes regularly withheld so I don't end up owing a bunch at tax time? I really don't want a surprise bill when I file next year. Thanks for any help!!
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Ravi Kapoor
Claiming "exempt" on your W-4 means you're telling your employer NOT to withhold any federal income tax from your paychecks. This is the opposite of what you want! If you want taxes taken out so you don't owe at the end of the year, you should NOT claim exempt. You need to complete the W-4 form properly with your filing status, number of jobs, dependents, and any additional withholding you might want. The form has changed in recent years, so it no longer uses allowances but instead tries to estimate your tax situation more accurately. I'd recommend going to your HR or payroll department ASAP and submitting a new W-4 where you do not claim exempt status. The longer you wait, the more paychecks you'll receive with no federal tax withholding, which means a bigger tax bill next April.
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Freya Larsen
•Wait I'm confused too. So non-exempt means you DO pay taxes? And if you're exempt you don't pay ANY federal taxes at all? Is that even legal for most people?
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Ravi Kapoor
•You're mixing up two different concepts. "Exempt" on a W-4 form is about tax withholding from your paychecks - claiming exempt means no federal income tax is withheld, but you'll still owe taxes if you have tax liability. The terms "exempt employee" and "non-exempt employee" are completely different - they refer to overtime pay classifications under labor laws, not taxation. Exempt employees (typically salaried) don't get overtime pay while non-exempt employees (typically hourly) must receive overtime pay. This has nothing to do with tax withholding.
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GalacticGladiator
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Omar Zaki
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Chloe Taylor
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StarStrider
Here's a simple breakdown for everyone confused about withholding: - Claiming EXEMPT = No federal income tax withheld = You'll likely OWE at tax time - NOT claiming exempt = Normal withholding based on your W-4 details = Better chance of not owing Exempt status is only legitimate if you had NO tax liability last year AND expect none this year. Most working people don't qualify for exempt status! Sounds like you need to submit a new W-4 ASAP and make sure you're not claiming exempt. You might also want to put a little extra in the "additional withholding" line (like $20-50 per check) to make up for the periods where you had no withholding.
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Zara Malik
•If I've been claiming exempt for a few months, will I be in trouble with the IRS? Or can I just fix it now?
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StarStrider
•You won't be in trouble for claiming exempt for a few months as long as you fix it now and make sure you pay your full tax liability when you file. The IRS doesn't penalize you for underwithholding unless it's severe (generally if you'll owe more than $1,000 at tax time AND your withholding covers less than 90% of your current year tax or 100% of last year's tax). Just submit a new W-4 immediately, and consider adding some additional withholding to each paycheck to make up for the months when you had no withholding. You might also want to check if you need to make an estimated tax payment to catch up, especially if you've gone most of the year without proper withholding.
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Luca Marino
Does anyone know if HR has to process your W-4 change immediately? I submitted a new form 3 weeks ago to stop being "exempt" but my paycheck today still had no federal taxes taken out!
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Nia Davis
•Legally they should implement your W-4 changes no later than the start of the first payroll period ending on or after the 30th day from when you submitted the revised form. So basically within 30 days. If it's been 3 weeks, give them another week, then follow up.
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Zoe Stavros
This is exactly the kind of confusion that trips up so many people! You're definitely not alone in misunderstanding the W-4 exempt status. Just to reinforce what others have said - claiming "exempt" means NO federal income tax gets withheld from your paychecks. You'll still pay Social Security and Medicare taxes, but zero federal income tax. This almost always results in owing money when you file your return. The good news is this is totally fixable! Submit a new W-4 to your HR/payroll department right away and DO NOT check the exempt box. Fill out the rest of the form based on your actual situation - single/married, dependents, etc. Since you've potentially missed several paychecks worth of withholding, you might want to add some extra withholding in the "additional amount" section of the new W-4 to help catch up. Even an extra $50-100 per paycheck could save you from a big surprise bill next April. Don't stress too much - this happens more often than you'd think, and as long as you fix it promptly you should be fine!
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Edwards Hugo
•This is really helpful advice! I'm curious though - how do you figure out the right amount for that "additional withholding" section? Like if someone has been exempt for say 6 months, is there a way to calculate roughly how much extra they should have taken out per paycheck for the remaining months? I don't want to just guess and either still owe a bunch or give the government an interest-free loan that's way too big.
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