Trying to understand the difference between GDS and ADS depreciation for a vehicle

The main difference between GDS (General Depreciation System) and ADS (Alternative Depreciation System) is the recovery period - GDS typically has shorter recovery periods than ADS, which is why you're seeing a higher refund with GDS. For most vehicles, GDS uses a 5-year recovery period while ADS uses a 5-year or 6-year period depending on the specific situation. GDS is the default method for most businesses, but there are situations where you must use ADS (like for listed property used 50% or less for business). The consequences of choosing one over the other mainly relate to timing of deductions - GDS generally front-loads more depreciation earlier in the asset's life. Since you sold the vehicle in 2024, you'll need to calculate any potential recapture of depreciation if you sold it for more than the adjusted basis. This is where your choice of GDS vs ADS might have different impacts.

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - you need to be consistent with your depreciation method across similar assets. If you've been using GDS for other business vehicles in the past, switching to ADS for this one vehicle might raise red flags. The IRS likes consistency in your depreciation approaches. Also, for 2023 tax year, make sure you're calculating partial-year depreciation correctly since you sold the vehicle. You'll need to prorate the depreciation based on the number of months you owned it that year.

I switched from H&R Block to TurboTax last year because I had a similar issue with business vehicle depreciation. TurboTax actually walks you through both GDS and ADS options and explains the differences right in the software.

For your landscaping business truck, since you're using straight line depreciation and sold it in 2024, here's what you need to know about GDS vs ADS: **Key Differences:** - **GDS (General Depreciation System)**: 5-year recovery period for trucks, allows faster depreciation deductions - **ADS (Alternative Depreciation System)**: Typically 5-6 year recovery period, slower depreciation schedule **Why GDS gives you a higher refund:** GDS front-loads more depreciation in the earlier years, giving you larger deductions upfront. That $420 difference you're seeing is real money back now. **The trade-off:** When you sold the truck in 2024, your adjusted basis (original cost minus accumulated depreciation) was lower under GDS. This means you'll likely have more taxable gain or less deductible loss on the sale compared to ADS. **For your 2023 filing:** Since this is your first business vehicle and you haven't established a pattern with other assets, you have flexibility to choose either method. GDS is the standard choice for most small businesses unless you're required to use ADS. **Bottom line:** If the immediate cash flow from the higher refund is important for your business, GDS is probably the right choice. Just be prepared that when you file 2024 taxes next year, you might owe a bit more due to the depreciation recapture calculation. The IRS won't penalize you for choosing GDS - it's completely legitimate and commonly used by landscaping businesses for their vehicles.