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Troubleshooting TurboTax MAGI Calculation Error for EV Tax Credit Eligibility

I think I might have found a problem with how TurboTax is calculating my MAGI for the used EV tax credit. The credit has a $75,000 MAGI limit for single filers, but TurboTax is showing my MAGI at $75,447, which puts me just over the threshold and would cost me the entire $4,000 credit! I tried calculating my MAGI manually and I'm getting a different number: My W-2 Box 1 (wages) shows $81,427.20 (which comes from $102,162.49 in SS/Medicare wages minus $20,735.29 in 401(k) contributions) I also have a Capital Loss Carryover of -$3,000, bringing my adjusted income to $78,427.20 For my Traditional IRA, I should get a partial deduction since I'm in the phase-out range ($73,000-$83,000 for single filers). I contributed the max $6,500 and calculated my deduction as $4,148.21 using the partial deduction formula. This should put my MAGI at $74,278.99, which is UNDER the $75,000 limit for the EV credit! I also maxed out my HSA through work at $3,850, which might lower my MAGI even further to around $70,429, but I'm not sure if that applies to the MAGI calculation for this specific credit. Am I calculating something wrong, or could TurboTax be making an error in how it determines MAGI for the EV tax credit? The $4,000 credit is a big deal to me and I want to make sure I'm getting this right!

Tax pro here - I think I see what's happening. MAGI calculations can be tricky because they differ slightly depending on which tax benefit you're calculating for. For the EV tax credit specifically, your MAGI is your AGI (Adjusted Gross Income) with certain deductions added back. The key here is that for MAGI purposes, you need to add back traditional IRA deductions, student loan interest, and certain other items. Your calculation is mostly correct, but you're subtracting the IRA contribution when determining MAGI, which isn't right for this specific credit. Your HSA contribution does reduce MAGI for the EV credit, so that's definitely applicable. Try this calculation: 1. Start with your AGI (after all deductions including IRA and HSA) 2. Add back your traditional IRA deduction 3. Don't add back your HSA contribution 4. That's your MAGI for EV credit purposes I think TurboTax is correctly adding back your IRA deduction, which is why their number is higher. But they should be factoring in your HSA contribution.

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Wait, I'm confused about the HSA part. I thought HSA contributions through an employer were already pre-tax, so they wouldn't show up in Box 1 of the W-2 to begin with? If that's the case, would they still reduce MAGI for the EV credit calculation?

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You're absolutely right about employer HSA contributions! If your HSA contribution was made through payroll deduction (which most are), it would already be excluded from your W-2 Box 1 wages. In that case, you wouldn't get to deduct it again when calculating your MAGI. However, if you made any HSA contributions outside of payroll, those would be an "above-the-line" deduction that would reduce your AGI but would not be added back for MAGI purposes for the EV credit.

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Thanks for the explanation. So to make sure I understand: for the EV credit MAGI, I need to take my AGI and add back my IRA deduction, but not add back the HSA. If my HSA was through employer payroll deduction (which it was), then it's already excluded from Box 1 wages and wouldn't factor into further calculations? That makes sense why TurboTax is showing a higher number than I calculated. Do you think I should double-check if TurboTax is handling the HSA correctly for MAGI? My concern is whether TurboTax is somehow adding it back when it shouldn't be.

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For the EV credit MAGI, your understanding is correct - take AGI, add back IRA deduction, don't add back HSA. Since your HSA was through payroll deduction, it's already excluded from your Box 1 wages, so it's already "baked in" to your calculations. TurboTax should be handling this correctly, but it's always good to verify. I'd suggest reviewing the MAGI calculation breakdown in TurboTax if they offer that view. Sometimes they have a "how this was calculated" link that shows each component. If you're right at the edge of eligibility, it might be worth checking if you have any other deductions available to lower your MAGI just enough to qualify.

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One thing to consider that might be causing the discrepancy - are you including any investment income in your calculations? Even small amounts of interest, dividends, or capital gains (minus your capital loss carryover) need to be included in MAGI. TurboTax might be accounting for some investment income that you're not including in your manual calculation. Check if you received any 1099-INT or 1099-DIV forms from banks or investment accounts. Even $500 in dividend income could push you over the threshold in your situation. Also, if you had any side gig or freelance income (even small amounts), that would count toward your MAGI as well. Worth double-checking!

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Good point about investment income! I do have a small amount of dividends (about $320) and some interest income (around $180) that I didn't include in my manual calculation. That definitely explains part of the difference. Do you know if student loan interest deduction reduces MAGI for the EV credit calculation? I paid about $900 in student loan interest last year.

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Student loan interest is one of those deductions that gets added back when calculating MAGI for most tax credits, including the EV credit. So while it reduces your AGI, it doesn't reduce your MAGI for this purpose. So the $500 in investment income you mentioned plus adding back your IRA deduction and student loan interest deduction would explain why TurboTax is calculating a higher MAGI than you expected. It sounds like their calculation is likely correct based on everything you've shared.

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Has anyone here actually successfully claimed the used EV credit? I'm considering buying a used EV this year but worried about the MAGI limits since I'm right around that threshold too.

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I claimed it last year! The credit worked exactly as advertised. Just make sure the dealer provides the proper certification that the vehicle qualifies. Not all used EVs qualify - there are price limits ($25,000) and the vehicle can't be more than 2 years old from when you purchase it. Also, double check the VIN - some dealers will try to sell you a vehicle that's already had the credit claimed on it before (which would make it ineligible).

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Thanks for the info! I didn't realize there was a $25,000 price cap on the vehicle itself. That definitely limits the options. Did you have any trouble with the MAGI calculation part when you filed?

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