How do Traditional IRA contributions impact my AGI calculation and tax due?
I filed my taxes using TurboTax and I'm confused about how my Traditional IRA contributions affected my AGI calculation. Hoping someone can sanity check this for me. My AGI came in around $192k primarily from my W-2 job. This already accounts for my maxed-out traditional 401k contributions ($22,500) and my HSA contributions ($4,150) that I make through my employer. When I initially entered just my W-2 info, my federal tax due showed approximately $1,200. Then I entered my investment losses that gave me a capital loss deduction of $3,000, plus I made a traditional IRA contribution of $6,500. After entering both of these deductions, my tax due only dropped to about $270. I'm confused - shouldn't my tax due have decreased by more? I thought my AGI would be reduced by $9,500 total ($3k loss + $6.5k IRA), which should result in a bigger tax reduction at my income level. Am I missing something here? Is the software calculating this correctly? Should I get a second opinion on my return?
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Kaylee Cook
Your tax reduction actually makes sense. Here's why: The Traditional IRA contribution and capital loss deduction do reduce your AGI by $9,500 total, but the actual tax savings depends on your marginal tax rate. At your income level, you're likely in the 24% federal tax bracket (for 2024 taxes filed in 2025). A $9,500 reduction in taxable income at the 24% tax bracket would save you roughly $2,280 in taxes (9,500 × 0.24). However, there's another factor at play - at your income level, your Traditional IRA contribution is likely only partially deductible or possibly non-deductible, depending on whether you're covered by a retirement plan at work (which it sounds like you are with your 401k). The IRS phases out Traditional IRA deductibility for higher-income taxpayers who are covered by workplace retirement plans. This is probably why your tax reduction was less than expected.
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Morgan Washington
•Thanks for that explanation. You know, I completely forgot about the income limits for Traditional IRA deductibility! I am covered by a workplace plan with my 401k. So even though I made the Traditional IRA contribution, it sounds like it might not be fully deductible because of my income level. That would explain the smaller-than-expected tax reduction.
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Kaylee Cook
•Yes, exactly. For 2024 (filing in 2025), if you're covered by a workplace retirement plan, the Traditional IRA deduction begins to phase out at $77,000 for single filers and $123,000 for married filing jointly. It completely phases out at $87,000 and $143,000 respectively. Since your AGI is around $192k, your Traditional IRA contribution would be non-deductible if you're married filing jointly, and definitely non-deductible if you're single. You'd only get the tax benefit from the $3,000 capital loss, which at 24% would save you about $720 - very close to the $700 reduction you saw.
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Oliver Alexander
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Lara Woods
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Eli Butler
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Marcus Patterson
Another thing to consider - make sure you're looking at the right number on your tax return. Your AGI (Adjusted Gross Income) is indeed reduced by the $3,000 capital loss, but the Traditional IRA deduction comes AFTER the AGI calculation to determine your taxable income. If you're looking at the AGI line of your return and wondering why it only went down by $3,000 instead of $9,500, that's why. The IRA deduction reduces taxable income, not AGI directly.
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Morgan Washington
•Wait, I'm confused. I thought traditional IRA contributions were "above the line" deductions that reduce AGI, not itemized deductions. Isn't that one of the benefits compared to Roth IRAs?
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Marcus Patterson
•You're absolutely right, and I misspoke. Traditional IRA contributions are indeed "above the line" deductions that reduce your AGI directly, not itemized deductions. The issue in your case is almost certainly the income phase-out for deductible IRA contributions when you're covered by a workplace retirement plan. At your income level, the deduction is likely reduced or eliminated completely, which explains why your tax due didn't decrease as much as expected. Sorry for the confusion!
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Lydia Bailey
This happened to me too! Check if you completed Form 8606 for non-deductible IRA contributions. It's super important to file this form every year you make non-deductible contributions, otherwise you might end up paying taxes twice on that money.
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Mateo Warren
•Form 8606 is critical! If you don't file it, you'll have no way to prove to the IRS later that you already paid tax on those contributions, and when you withdraw in retirement, they could tax it all, even the portion that should be tax-free return of already-taxed contributions.
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Ingrid Larsson
This is a really common confusion! At your income level with workplace retirement plan coverage, you're likely hitting the Traditional IRA deductibility phase-out limits that others mentioned. One quick way to verify this: look at Line 20 on your Form 1040 (Traditional IRA deduction). If it shows $0 or less than $6,500, then your contribution wasn't fully deductible due to income limits. Since you made a non-deductible Traditional IRA contribution, you absolutely need to file Form 8606 to track your basis in the account. This is crucial for avoiding double taxation when you eventually withdraw. Given your income level, you might want to consider doing a backdoor Roth IRA conversion instead. You'd contribute to Traditional IRA (non-deductible), then immediately convert to Roth. This way you get the tax-free growth benefit of a Roth IRA despite being over the income limits for direct Roth contributions. Your $930 tax reduction ($1,200 - $270) makes perfect sense if only the $3,000 capital loss was deductible. At roughly 24% marginal rate, that's about $720 in tax savings, which aligns with what you're seeing.
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Jade Lopez
•This is such a helpful breakdown! I'm in a similar income range and had no idea about the backdoor Roth IRA strategy. Quick question - when you do the backdoor Roth conversion, do you have to convert the entire Traditional IRA balance, or can you just convert the current year's contribution? I'm worried about tax implications if I have other money sitting in Traditional IRAs from previous years.
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