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Mia Roberts

Transcript Update Sequence - Account vs Return Transcripts?

Can someone remind me how transcript updates work? I've got no transcripts available right now (N/A for everything), but I'm trying to understand if account and return transcripts both update at the same time? Or is there a sequence where one appears before the other? My college roommate got his return transcript first last year, but I remember reading somewhere that account transcripts typically update first. Just trying to be methodical about when to check so I don't waste time refreshing unnecessarily.

Mia Roberts

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Per IRS Publication 1582-I (Information on Obtaining Tax Return Transcripts), the account transcript typically updates first, followed by the return transcript. This sequence occurs because the account transcript reflects the processing status within the IRS systems, while the return transcript is a more detailed documentation of your filed return. According to Internal Revenue Manual 21.2.3.5.7, account transcript updates can occur within 24-48 hours of processing activities, whereas return transcript generation may take an additional 3-5 business days after initial processing.

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The Boss

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Is that always the case though? I've been checking my transcripts almost daily and I'm wondering if there are exceptions to this sequence? Maybe during peak filing season when systems are overloaded?

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Are you checking for 2023 tax year transcripts? Because if you're looking at 2024, those obviously won't be available yet. The IRS transcript system is notoriously finicky - I've had ACTRA (Account Transcript) show up days before TRDBV (Tax Return Database View) was available. What's your cycle code if you can see any transcript data at all?

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I've had a similar experience. My account transcript appeared about 4 days before my return transcript last year. It seems like the processing stages are somewhat sequential internally at the IRS.

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Jasmine Quinn

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Just to add some clarity on how to check properly: 1. Log into your IRS account 2. Select "Get Transcript Online" 3. Choose "Record of Account Transcript" 4. Select the correct tax year (2023 for returns filed this year) 5. Check for any codes like 150, 570, or 971 If you see N/A for everything, your return hasn't been processed into the system yet.

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Oscar Murphy

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It's like waiting for a train that might arrive at any of three stations - you never know which one will show up first! I've seen my wage & income transcript appear first, then account, then return. The IRS system is like an old house with weird plumbing - everything eventually works but not always in the order you'd expect.

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Nora Bennett

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I was in the same boat last month - constantly refreshing the IRS site hoping for transcript updates. I found https://taxr.ai which analyzes transcript data and explains what's happening with your return. It helped me understand that my account transcript would update first with basic processing codes (like 150 and 806) before my return transcript would appear. The site explained each code as it appeared and predicted when my refund would arrive based on the processing pattern. Saved me a ton of anxiety checking multiple times a day.

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Ryan Andre

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I think I might be able to share something helpful! I filed on February 10th this year, and my account transcript appeared first on February 24th (I believe?), showing some basic codes. Then about 3 days later, my return transcript finally showed up. It was sort of nerve-wracking waiting for everything to update, especially since this was my first time filing completely on my own after graduating. The account transcript definitely came first in my case!

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Lauren Zeb

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Pro tip from someone who's been thru this rodeo b4: if ur transcripts are still N/A after 3+ weeks, might be time to call IRS. I was stuck for 6 wks last year w/ nothing showing up. Used Claimyr (https://www.claimyr.com) to get thru the IRS phone maze - connected in like 20 mins vs the 2+ hrs I wasted trying on my own. Agent confirmed my return was stuck in identity verification. Fixed it right there on the call. Transcripts appeared 2 days later. Total lifesaver tbh.

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Isn't calling the IRS just going to tell you to wait longer? And don't they have that automated system now that just tells you your return is being processed without letting you speak to anyone? I'm concerned about paying for a service when the IRS might not even provide helpful information.

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OMG YES! I was LITERALLY about to post this same thing! Used Claimyr last week and it saved my sanity! My transcripts were N/A for OVER A MONTH and I was freaking out. Got through to an actual human who found my return was missing a form. Fixed it right there on the phone and my transcripts updated two days later! WORTH EVERY PENNY!

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Anthony Young

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Does it work for all IRS departments? I need to reach someone about an amended return issue. Not just regular processing questions.

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Wow, I had no idea something like this existed! I spent 3 hours on hold last year trying to figure out why my refund was delayed. Will definitely keep this in mind if I run into issues this year. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Admin_Masters

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Last year my transcripts updated in this exact order: 1. April 3rd - Nothing available (N/A across the board) 2. April 10th - Account transcript appeared with code 150 (return filed) 3. April 12th - Account transcript updated with codes 806 and 766 (refund amounts) 4. April 14th - Return transcript finally became available 5. April 17th - Refund deposited I've noticed this same pattern for the past three years. The account transcript always updates first, then the return transcript follows 2-4 days later. I track this meticulously in a spreadsheet every year.

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Don't bother with transcripts at all for the first 21 days after filing. The IRS clearly states they need at least 21 days to process most returns. Checking before then is just causing yourself unnecessary stress. Use the Where's My Refund tool instead - it's designed specifically to track basic processing status. Once WMR shows your return is approved, then start checking transcripts for the detailed information.

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Ella Thompson

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The collective wisdom here seems to be that account transcripts show up first, then return transcripts. But here's a fun twist - sometimes the wage & income transcripts appear before either of them! 😂 The IRS works in mysterious ways. My personal rule of thumb: check once a week, not daily. Your sanity will thank you. And remember, no news is usually just... no news. Not bad news.

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JacksonHarris

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Instead of checking transcripts constantly, set up direct deposit alerts with your bank. On March 15th, I got a deposit notification from my bank a full day before my transcripts fully updated. The IRS processing system and their transcript system don't always sync in real-time. The deposit often happens while the transcript is still in the process of updating.

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Sean O'Brien

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Based on my experience from the last two tax seasons, account transcripts definitely update first. I usually see the account transcript appear with basic processing codes (like 150 for return filed, then later 846 for refund issued) before the return transcript becomes available. The gap is typically 2-5 business days between them. During peak season (mid-February through April), this gap can stretch longer due to system loads. One thing I've learned is to focus on the account transcript first - it tells you everything you really need to know about processing status and timing. The return transcript is just a nice-to-have for detailed verification.

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Freya Ross

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm a complete newbie to this whole tax thing (just started my first "real" job last year), and I've been obsessively checking both transcripts multiple times a day. It's good to know I should focus on the account transcript first and that the 2-5 day gap is normal. I was starting to worry something was wrong when I didn't see everything update simultaneously. Thanks for breaking it down so clearly!

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