Tax preparer seeking advice on clergy W2 & housing allowance documentation
Hey all, I'm a tax preparer with a situation I've never encountered before. I just started working with my first clergy client (I'll call him Pastor Mike) and I'm completely stumped on how to properly handle his housing allowance on his tax return. Pastor Mike gave me his W-2 showing about $52k in box 1, box 3, and box 5. Boxes 4 and 6 show the withholding for SS and Medicare taxes as expected. But then in box 14, there's this housing allowance listed at $18,000 and I'm not sure how to properly report this on his return. I know clergy taxation is unique, but I'm uncertain about whether this housing allowance is excluded from income, how it affects self-employment taxes, and if there are any special forms I need to complete. Pastor Mike mentioned something about a Form 4361 exemption but couldn't remember if he'd filed it years ago. Any experienced preparers who've worked with clergy before that can point me in the right direction? I want to make sure I'm handling this correctly and not missing anything important.
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StarSurfer
You need to be careful with clergy returns as they have some unique tax situations. The housing allowance in box 14 is excluded from income taxes but is subject to self-employment taxes unless your client has an approved exemption from SE taxes. First, confirm if Pastor Mike has a Form 4361 exemption. If he does, he should have received approval from the IRS years ago and would have a copy. If he has this exemption, then the housing allowance is excluded from both income tax AND self-employment tax. If he doesn't have the exemption (which is common), then you need to include the housing allowance on Schedule SE for self-employment tax purposes, even though it's excluded from income tax. Clergy are considered self-employed for Social Security/Medicare purposes but employees for income tax purposes - weird dual status! Also check if the $52k in box 1 already excludes the housing allowance. Most churches report W-2 box 1 with the housing allowance already removed, but occasionally they include it and note it in box 14, which would require an adjustment.
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Carmen Reyes
•This is super helpful but I'm still confused about something - if the church already withheld Social Security and Medicare (boxes 4 and 6), would Pastor Mike still need to pay self-employment taxes? Wouldn't that be double taxation on the same income? Also, how does Pastor Mike substantiate that he actually used the housing allowance for housing? Does he need receipts or documentation?
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StarSurfer
•If there are amounts in boxes 4 and 6, that's unusual for clergy. Typically, churches should NOT be withholding Social Security and Medicare taxes from ministers because they're considered self-employed for FICA purposes. This suggests the church might be treating him incorrectly for payroll purposes. You should contact the church's payroll department to clarify this situation. The minister may be due a refund of those incorrectly withheld taxes, and you'll need to file Schedule SE to properly calculate the self-employment tax on both the salary and housing allowance. For substantiating the housing allowance, the minister should keep records of all housing expenses (mortgage/rent, utilities, furnishings, repairs, etc.). The exclusion is limited to the lowest of: the designated housing allowance amount, actual housing expenses, or fair rental value of the home plus utilities. He doesn't submit these with the return, but should keep them in case of audit.
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Andre Moreau
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Zoe Christodoulou
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Andre Moreau
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Mei Chen
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CosmicCadet
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Jamal Thompson
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Mei Chen
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Jamal Thompson
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Liam O'Connor
For clergy W-2s, make sure you're using tax software that correctly handles ministerial income. Some basic tax programs don't properly account for the dual-status of clergy (employee for income tax, self-employed for SE tax). I've found that TaxSlayer Professional and Drake handle these situations well. You'll want to enter the W-2 normally, then make an adjustment on Schedule 1 if the housing allowance was included in Box 1 (rare), and then make sure the housing allowance gets included on Schedule SE. The software should properly generate Schedule SE with the housing allowance included for self-employment tax calculation, while keeping it excluded from income tax calculations.
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Yuki Nakamura
•Thanks for the software recommendation! I'm using ProConnect Tax Online and wasn't sure if it had specific features for clergy returns. Does anyone have experience with how ProConnect handles housing allowances specifically? I want to make sure the software is calculating everything correctly.
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Liam O'Connor
•I don't have direct experience with ProConnect, but most professional tax software should handle clergy returns properly. The key is knowing where to enter the housing allowance information. In ProConnect, look for a clergy or minister-specific worksheet or entry screen. If you can't find one, you may need to manually exclude the housing allowance by making an adjustment on Schedule 1 (line for "Other income") with a description like "Clergy Housing Allowance" as a negative number if it was included in Box 1. Then ensure the housing amount is included when calculating self-employment tax. I'd recommend running a test return with simple numbers first to make sure the calculations look correct. Compare the output with IRS Publication 517 examples to verify everything is calculating properly.
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Amara Adeyemi
Don't forget about the Deason Rule if your clergy client has both ministerial income and housing allowance! This rule requires you to allocate expenses proportionally between taxable and tax-exempt income. For example, if 30% of the minister's income is tax-exempt housing allowance, then 30% of business expenses would not be deductible. It's a tricky calculation that many preparers miss, but the IRS definitely looks for it in clergy returns.
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Giovanni Gallo
•I've never heard of this Deason Rule before - is this something new? I've done a few clergy returns and never had to adjust their business expenses.
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Rita Jacobs
•The Deason Rule isn't new - it comes from a 1981 Tax Court case (Deason v. Commissioner). It's based on the general tax principle that you can't deduct expenses related to tax-exempt income. For clergy, this means if part of their compensation is the tax-exempt housing allowance, then a proportional amount of their ministerial business expenses (like professional development, books, travel for church business, etc.) becomes non-deductible. So if a minister receives $40k salary + $20k housing allowance (total $60k), then 1/3 of their income is tax-exempt. Therefore, 1/3 of their business expenses would be non-deductible. It's definitely something to watch for, especially with higher housing allowances relative to salary.
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Javier Cruz
As someone who's worked with several clergy clients over the years, I'd strongly recommend getting a copy of IRS Publication 517 (Social Security and Other Information for Members of the Clergy and Religious Workers) if you haven't already. It's the definitive guide for these situations. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you should also verify the housing allowance was properly designated in advance by the church's governing body. The IRS requires that housing allowances be officially designated before the tax year begins, not retroactively. If Pastor Mike's church didn't properly designate the $18,000 housing allowance in writing before 2024, it might not qualify for the exclusion. Also, since this is your first clergy client, you might want to ask Pastor Mike if he has any other ministerial income from weddings, funerals, or guest speaking that wasn't reported on his W-2. This additional income would also be subject to self-employment tax and needs to be reported on Schedule C or Schedule C-EZ. The dual tax status of clergy really trips up a lot of preparers initially, but once you understand the basic principle (employee for income tax, self-employed for SE tax), it becomes much more manageable.
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