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Tax implications after returning my Company Car - confused about tax code changes from 566L to 844L

Title: Tax implications after returning my Company Car - confused about tax code changes from 566L to 844L 1 Hi everyone, I've recently handed back my company car and noticed some changes to my tax code that don't quite make sense to me. I'm based in the UK and had a company car benefit for the past 7 months which gave me a 566L tax code. Now that I've returned the vehicle, my code has changed to 844L. While I'm seeing a bit more in my pay packet, I'm confused about the numbers. The 566L code was reducing my monthly take-home by about £130, but this new 844L code is still costing me around £80 per month compared to what I'd get on a standard code. So effectively, I'm only saving £50 per month for not having the company car anymore. I expected to see the full £130 added back to my pay since that's what the car benefit was "costing" me. If I look at the math over the tax year: - If I had kept the car: 12 months at £130 reduction = £1,560 total annual cost - What's happening now: 7 months with car at £130 reduction (£910) plus 5 months without car but still with £80 reduction (£400) = £1,310 total £1,310 doesn't seem to be proportional to the expected annual cost (it's not 7/12ths of £1,560). Am I missing something here? Is this calculation correct or should I be getting more of my money back now that I've returned the company car?

8 The way your tax codes are working is actually correct, but I understand the confusion! When you have a company car, HMRC reduces your tax-free personal allowance to account for the benefit-in-kind. The 566L code meant your tax-free allowance was reduced to £5,660 (the number before the L, multiplied by 10). Now with 844L, your allowance is £8,440, which is higher but still not at the full standard personal allowance (which would be around 1257L for the current tax year). The reason you're still seeing an £80 deduction is likely because there are other benefits or adjustments affecting your tax code besides just the company car. These could include health insurance, fuel benefit, or other taxable perks you receive. It could also be adjusting for tax you owe from previous years. The calculations you're doing assume that the only difference between your standard tax code and the reduced one was the company car, but there are probably other factors at play.

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17 Thanks for explaining. I do have private health insurance through work, but I thought that was already factored into the 566L code. Would my new 844L code include both the removal of the car benefit AND the continuation of the health insurance adjustment? Also, is there a way to see a breakdown of exactly what makes up my tax code?

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8 Yes, that's exactly right - the 844L would include the removal of the car benefit but continuation of other benefits like your health insurance. The difference between your full personal allowance and the 844L code likely represents the tax due on your remaining benefits. You can see a detailed breakdown of your tax code by logging into your personal tax account on the HMRC website (Gov.uk). Alternatively, you can call HMRC directly and ask for a tax code breakdown - they'll explain exactly what adjustments are being made to your personal allowance. Your payroll department might also be able to provide this information.

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19 I'm interested but skeptical. How exactly does the system know about HMRC's specific calculations? Does it just explain general tax principles or can it actually tell you what's happening with your specific tax code?

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11 Yes, it works perfectly with UK tax codes - it has specific functionality for UK tax systems including company car benefit calculations and the tax code adjustments that happen when you hand back a vehicle. For your specific question about the calculations, it doesn't just explain general principles - you upload your tax documents (like your payslips and any P11D or tax code notification letters), and it analyzes the actual numbers to explain exactly what's happening in your situation. In my case, it spotted that my code change wasn't just about the car but also included adjustments for health insurance and some previous year underpayment. The explanation matched exactly what HMRC later confirmed when I finally got through to them.

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19 This sounds too good to be true. I've literally spent HOURS on hold with HMRC about my company car benefit calculation. Are you sure this isn't just paying for something that should be free anyway? Has anyone else actually had success with this?

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22 Something similar happened to me last year. Check if you also have a fuel benefit that might still be being taxed. When I handed back my company car, they removed the car benefit but forgot to remove the fuel benefit from my tax code. It took three calls to HMRC to get it sorted. Also, remember that tax codes are cumulative over the year. HMRC might be adjusting your code to ensure you pay the right total amount of tax for the entire year, not just from now onwards. That's why the math doesn't always seem straightforward when you do month-by-month calculations.

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3 Would the fuel benefit still apply if they've taken the car away though? Surely you can't get fuel benefit without a company car to put the fuel in?

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22 You're absolutely right - technically the fuel benefit should end when the car is returned. However, HMRC systems don't always update everything simultaneously. In my case, HR had notified HMRC about the car being returned but hadn't specifically mentioned the fuel benefit ending too, so it continued on my tax code as a separate item. It's a common administrative error, and that's why it's always worth checking your tax code breakdown when any benefit changes. HMRC treats the car benefit and fuel benefit as separate items in their systems even though logically one can't exist without the other.

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7 Has anyone else noticed that when you get a company car, your tax code drops immediately, but when you give it back, it takes forever for your code to fully adjust? Mine took almost 3 months to properly update after I handed back my BMW. Ended up having to call HMRC myself as the payroll team kept saying "it's in process" every time I asked. Finally got a decent tax rebate though!

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15 Same here! My tax code got hammered within weeks of getting my Audi A4, but when I gave it back last October, I didn't see my tax code properly update until January. Called HMRC and they said something about "waiting for confirmation from employer" - but somehow they didn't need that confirmation to start taxing me in the first place!

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This is a really common issue that catches a lot of people off guard! The key thing to understand is that your tax code changes aren't just about the company car - they're about your entire tax position for the year. When you had the 566L code, HMRC was collecting tax on your company car benefit plus any other taxable benefits you receive. Now with 844L, they've removed the car benefit but you're still being taxed on other benefits (like health insurance, life insurance, etc.) that you mentioned. The reason your monthly saving isn't the full £130 is because HMRC also uses tax code changes to collect any underpaid tax from earlier in the year or previous years. So part of that remaining £80 reduction might be catching up on tax you owe. I'd recommend calling HMRC directly to get a breakdown of your tax code - they can explain exactly what each adjustment represents. You can also check your personal tax account online at gov.uk which should show the components of your tax code calculation. Don't worry though - if you've overpaid tax due to the timing of returning the car, you should get that back either through your tax code or as a refund at the end of the tax year.

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This explanation really helps clarify things! I hadn't considered that HMRC might be using the tax code to collect underpaid tax from previous periods. That would definitely explain why the math doesn't add up to a simple pro-rata calculation. I'll definitely check my personal tax account online first before calling HMRC - sounds like that might save me some time on hold. Thanks for breaking down how the system actually works rather than just how we think it should work!

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Just to add another perspective - I went through exactly this situation about 18 months ago. The confusion around tax codes after returning a company car is incredibly common, and you're definitely not alone in finding the calculations confusing. One thing that really helped me understand what was happening was requesting a "Notice of Coding" from HMRC, which breaks down every single adjustment they're making to your personal allowance. You can get this by calling them or through your online account. In my case, I discovered that besides the obvious things like health insurance, there was also a small adjustment for a season ticket loan I'd forgotten about, plus they were collecting about £180 in underpaid tax from the previous year where my company car benefit had been slightly underestimated. The system is designed to collect the right amount of tax over the full year, so when you make changes mid-year like returning a car, they have to adjust everything to make sure you end up paying exactly what you owe - no more, no less. It's actually quite clever once you understand it, but definitely not intuitive! If you do find there's an error in their calculations after getting the breakdown, don't hesitate to challenge it. I found one mistake in my coding and got a nice little refund as a result.

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That's really helpful advice about requesting the Notice of Coding! I never knew that was something you could specifically ask for. It sounds like that would give much more detail than what I can see in my basic online account. The point about season ticket loans is interesting too - I do have one of those that I'd completely forgotten might affect my tax code. It's probably one of those small adjustments that adds up over the year. Did you find HMRC helpful when you challenged the error in your coding? I'm always a bit nervous about questioning government calculations in case I end up making things worse for myself!

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I've been through almost the exact same situation! When I returned my company car mid-year, I was also confused why my tax savings weren't as straightforward as I expected. What I learned is that HMRC operates on a year-to-date basis, so they're constantly adjusting your tax code to ensure you pay the correct total amount for the entire tax year. When you return a company car mid-year, they don't just remove that benefit going forward - they recalculate your entire tax position. A few things that might explain your £80 ongoing reduction: 1. Other taxable benefits you might have forgotten about (health insurance, life insurance, gym membership, etc.) 2. Previous year tax adjustments being collected through your current tax code 3. Student loan repayments if applicable 4. Pension contribution adjustments I'd strongly recommend logging into your Personal Tax Account on GOV.UK - it should show a breakdown of all the adjustments being made to your tax code. If that's not detailed enough, you can request a "Notice of Coding" from HMRC which gives you line-by-line explanations. Don't worry though - if there are any errors or if you've overpaid due to the timing of returning the car, it will all balance out by the end of the tax year, either through further code adjustments or a refund.

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This is really comprehensive advice - thank you! I think the year-to-date calculation approach explains a lot of my confusion. I was thinking about it as monthly chunks rather than HMRC trying to get my total annual tax right. You're absolutely right about other benefits I might have forgotten about. Besides the health insurance I mentioned, I do have life insurance through work and I think there might be a small gym membership benefit too. Those probably add up more than I realized. The Personal Tax Account suggestion is great - I'll check that first before calling HMRC. It sounds like it might give me the answers I need without having to wait on hold for hours!

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I can definitely relate to this confusion! I went through something very similar when I returned my company Volkswagen earlier this year. The tax code changes seemed to make no sense at first. What really helped me understand was realizing that HMRC doesn't just calculate your tax on what's happening right now - they're trying to make sure your total tax for the entire year is correct. So when you return the car mid-year, they have to do some complex calculations to balance everything out. In my case, the remaining reduction in my tax code after returning the car was due to: - Private medical insurance (which I'd forgotten was a taxable benefit) - A small amount of underpaid tax from the previous year - Dental insurance through work I'd definitely recommend checking your Personal Tax Account online first - it's much quicker than calling HMRC and gives you a good overview. If you need more detail, you can always call them later with specific questions. The good news is that even if the monthly amounts seem confusing now, it should all balance out correctly by the end of the tax year. HMRC's system is actually quite good at ensuring you pay exactly the right amount of tax overall, even if the month-to-month calculations aren't immediately obvious.

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - just returned my company car last month and was shocked that my take-home pay didn't increase as much as I expected. The point about HMRC calculating for the entire tax year rather than just month-to-month really makes sense. I think I was making the same mistake as the original poster in thinking it should be a simple pro-rata calculation. I'm definitely going to check my Personal Tax Account online like everyone suggests. I completely forgot about some of the smaller benefits like dental coverage that might still be affecting my tax code. It's amazing how these little things add up! Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's really reassuring to know this confusion is normal and that it should all work out correctly by the end of the tax year.

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I've been dealing with a very similar situation! Just went through this exact scenario when I returned my company car in February. The tax code confusion is absolutely maddening when you're trying to figure out where your money is going. What really helped me was understanding that HMRC operates on a "cumulative" basis throughout the tax year. So when you return the car mid-year, they don't just adjust going forward - they recalculate your entire tax position from April 6th onwards to make sure you end up paying exactly the right amount for the full year. In your case, that £80 monthly reduction is likely a combination of: - Remaining taxable benefits (health insurance, life insurance, etc.) - Any previous year tax adjustments being collected - Possibly some year-to-date catch-up calculations I'd definitely recommend logging into your Personal Tax Account on GOV.UK first - it gives you a much clearer breakdown than trying to reverse-engineer the numbers from your payslip. You can see exactly what adjustments are being made and why. If you're still confused after checking online, calling HMRC directly is worth it. I know their phone lines are terrible, but once you get through, they can explain your specific tax code calculation line by line. In my case, they spotted that my employer had failed to notify them that my fuel benefit had ended with the car, so I was being overtaxed by about £30 per month. The good news is that even if there are timing issues or small errors, it all gets reconciled by the end of the tax year. You'll either get a refund or further adjustments to make sure you've paid exactly what you owe - no more, no less.

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