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Questions about Company Car Deduction and Personal/Business Mileage Tax Implications

So I started this new job about 6 months ago that comes with a company car. They told me I need to track personal versus business mileage, which I've been doing meticulously. Everything was fine until I got my latest paycheck and noticed some pretty substantial "company car reductions" that I wasn't expecting. When I looked into it, they're basically deducting the Annual lease valuation ($10,250) multiplied by my personal mileage percentage which is running around 20%. When they gave me the car, all they mentioned was that I'd have to pay tax on my personal miles because it's considered a "fringe benefit" - but nobody explained I'd be paying 20% of the entire annual lease value! I'm completely confused about what this Annual lease valuation actually represents. Is it the total cost of leasing the car for a year? Or is it supposed to be the tax amount related to the car benefit? I'm paying around $2,050 (20% of $10,250) annually which seems really steep just for using the car for personal trips occasionally. This feels off to me, but I've never had a company car before so I'm totally out of my element here. Any insight would be super appreciated because this is seriously impacting my take-home pay!

Connor Murphy

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What you're experiencing is actually standard IRS procedure for company vehicle fringe benefits, though your employer should have explained it better upfront. The Annual Lease Value (ALV) is the IRS's method of determining the value of the benefit you're receiving from personal use of the company car. The $10,250 represents the estimated fair market value of having that vehicle for a year. When you use the car for personal reasons (that 20% of your mileage), you're receiving a benefit equal to 20% of that annual value. This isn't a direct "cost" of the lease, but rather the taxable value of the benefit you're receiving. The company has two options: either include this value as taxable income on your W-2 (meaning you pay income tax on it), or they can do what your company is doing - having you reimburse them directly for your personal use portion. The good news is that when they deduct it directly like this, you're actually paying the full value rather than paying taxes on that value, which would be less but would increase your taxable income. Make sure they're not doing both - charging you for personal use AND including it as taxable income on your W-2. That would be incorrect.

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QuantumQuest

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Thank you for explaining this! So if I'm understanding correctly, the company is actually doing me a favor by deducting the amount directly rather than adding it to my taxable income? Would I end up paying more in taxes if they did it the other way? Also, is there a way to verify that the Annual Lease Value they're using ($10,250) is accurate? It seems really high for the basic mid-size sedan they gave me.

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Connor Murphy

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Yes, in most cases, paying the amount directly is financially better because you're paying the actual value rather than the value plus taxes. For example, if you're in the 22% tax bracket and they added $2,050 to your taxable income, you'd pay about $451 in additional taxes, whereas direct payment allows you to just pay the benefit value. You can absolutely verify the Annual Lease Value. The IRS publishes Annual Lease Value tables in Publication 15-B. The ALV is based on the fair market value of the car when it was first made available to you. Look up the make, model, and year of your car to get its fair market value, then check the IRS table to see what ALV range it falls into. If you find a significant discrepancy, bring that documentation to your HR or payroll department.

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How exactly does that work? Do you just upload documents or do you have to talk to someone? My pay stubs don't actually show the breakdown of how they calculated the ALV or personal mileage percentage.

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Does this service really work? I've literally spent hours on hold with the IRS trying to get an answer about whether my employer is calculating the personal use correctly.

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Oliver Wagner

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Oliver Wagner

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Don't forget that you can potentially deduct business mileage on your personal tax return if your employer doesn't reimburse you for all business miles! The company car situation is a bit trickier, but if you're paying for a portion of the car through these deductions, you might be eligible to claim some business mileage on your taxes. For 2025 filing, the standard mileage rate is 67 cents per mile for business miles. Make sure you keep EXTREMELY detailed logs including date, starting location, ending location, purpose of trip, and exact mileage. The IRS is very strict about documentation for these deductions.

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This is completely incorrect advice. If you have a company car, you CANNOT deduct business mileage on your personal tax return, even if you're paying for part of it through paycheck deductions. That would be double-dipping. The IRS specifically prohibits this in Publication 463. The only way you could deduct business miles is if you were using your PERSONAL vehicle for business and not being reimbursed. Company cars are totally different.

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You're right, I misspoke. I was thinking about a situation where someone pays their own expenses for a company car (like gas and maintenance), which can sometimes be deductible if not reimbursed. But you're absolutely correct that you can't claim the standard mileage rate on a company car. The better approach in the original poster's situation would be to ensure that all legitimate business miles are being properly classified to minimize the personal use percentage. Things like trips to clients, work sites, or business errands should all count as business use, not personal use.

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Emma Thompson

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Has anyone successfully negotiated with their employer to reduce the Annual Lease Value used in these calculations? My company is using the maximum value in the IRS range for our vehicle class, and I think they could justifiably use a lower value.

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Malik Davis

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I actually did this at my last job. The key is to research the actual fair market value of your specific vehicle (make, model, year, options). Then bring that documentation to HR along with the IRS ALV table showing which range it falls into. In my case, they were using a value based on the most expensive trim level of our company cars, when most of us had the base model. Got them to reduce the ALV by about $1,200, which saved me around $300 a year based on my personal use percentage. Most employers want to be fair, they just don't want to do extra work figuring out individual values.

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Paolo Marino

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This is exactly the kind of situation where having proper documentation becomes crucial. I went through something similar when I first got a company car and the deductions seemed way off. A few things to double-check beyond what others have mentioned: 1. Make sure your employer is using the correct "first made available" date for determining the fair market value. If you got the car 6 months ago, they should be using the FMV from when you first received it, not when the company originally purchased/leased it. 2. Verify that they're calculating your personal use percentage correctly. Some companies incorrectly include weekends and holidays when the car just sits in your driveway as "personal use days" rather than basing it purely on actual mileage. 3. Ask for a detailed breakdown of how they calculated both the ALV and your personal use percentage. You're entitled to understand exactly how they arrived at these numbers. The $10,250 ALV does seem high for a basic mid-size sedan unless it's a newer model with higher-end features. I'd definitely recommend looking up your specific vehicle on KBB or Edmunds to get the fair market value, then cross-reference that with the IRS ALV tables to see if they're in the right ballpark. Don't be afraid to push back if the numbers don't add up - most payroll departments will work with you if you can show them specific documentation that their calculations might be off.

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