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Tax Expert Advice: How to Adjust Withholdings for Next Year After Losing Dependent Deductions

So my wife (let's call her Jane) and I are stuck paying about $4,900 in federal taxes this year. We're getting some back from the state at least. We relocated from Texas to Florida about 3 years ago while our son was finishing up college. Until this past year, we were able to deduct his education expenses and claim him as a dependent. He finished school in 2023 and got his own place, so 2024 was our first year without those deductions. Our bookkeeper warned us we'd see a jump in what we owed, and boy was she right. I make around $95,000 yearly (I'm 53). Jane is 67 and collects social security (about $37K per year). We have retirement accounts we're not touching yet and a mutual fund that's just sitting there accumulating value. We get a 1099 for the mutual fund each year. The fund performed really well last year, which probably contributed to our tax bill. Our bookkeeper says the issue is two-fold: I'm not claiming the correct withholding status on my W-4, and Jane doesn't have any withholdings taken from her social security. She's suggesting I change from married-filing-jointly to single/married-filing-separately on my W-4, and that Jane start withholding from her social security. She advised against withholding from the mutual fund because "the earnings fluctuate too much year to year." For those tax-savvy folks here, does this advice make sense? I'm planning to increase my withholdings from my salary, but I'm hesitant about having Jane withhold from her social security since $37K annually doesn't seem like a huge amount to me. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

The bookkeeper's advice about changing your W-4 is on the right track, but there's a bit of confusion in terminology. When you complete your W-4, you're not actually changing your filing status - you'll still file as married filing jointly on your tax return. The W-4 form is just about how much is withheld during the year. What your bookkeeper is suggesting is that you select the "Married filing separately" or "Single" checkbox on your W-4, which will result in more withholding from your paycheck. This is a common strategy for couples where both have income or when one spouse receives untaxed income like Social Security. Regarding withholding from Social Security - you can do this by filing Form W-4V to request voluntary withholding at a rate of 7%, 10%, 12%, or 22%. Given your situation, even a small withholding here could help reduce that surprise bill next year. The advice about not withholding from the mutual fund is correct - investment income fluctuates, and it's hard to predict. A better approach is to make sure your W-4 withholding covers your typical investment income, and if you have an unusually good year, you could make an estimated tax payment in the quarter when you realize significant gains.

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This is helpful but I'm still confused about the W-4 part. If we're married filing jointly on our tax return, wouldn't checking "single" on my W-4 be incorrect? Also, how do I figure out exactly how much extra to withhold so we don't owe but also don't get a huge refund? Is there some kind of calculator for this?

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Checking "Single" or "Married filing separately" on your W-4 isn't about accuracy - it's about strategy. These options simply withhold more taxes from each paycheck. The IRS doesn't match your W-4 withholding choice with your actual filing status - they're separate systems. Think of your W-4 as just a tool to get the right amount withheld, not a declaration of status. For figuring out the exact amount, the IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator on their website that's really helpful. You'll enter your income, your wife's Social Security, expected investment income, and it calculates the optimal withholding. You can adjust it to aim for a small refund rather than owing or getting a large refund. The calculator will tell you exactly which options to select on your new W-4.

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I think your bookkeeper's advice is partially right but missing something important. My husband and I were in an almost identical situation - I make about $85k and he gets Social Security of $34k plus we have investment income. What worked for us was a combination approach: I checked "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" on my W-4 AND added an additional amount on line 4(c). I calculated this additional amount by taking our investment income from last year (from the 1099), multiplying by our tax bracket (22%), then dividing by my number of paychecks per year. This approach has worked great for us the past two years. We get a small refund (~$500) instead of owing thousands. And we didn't need to touch my husband's Social Security at all.

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Can you explain more about how you calculated that extra withholding amount? I'm in a similar situation but not sure exactly how to figure out the right number for line 4(c). Do you just use last year's investment income or try to estimate the current year?

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I look at our investment income from the previous year as a starting point. For example, if our 1099s showed $10,000 in investment income and we're in the 22% tax bracket, that's $2,200 in taxes. If I get paid bi-weekly (26 paychecks), I'd put about $85 extra on line 4(c). I actually use a slightly more complex approach now. I take our average investment income over the past 3 years to account for fluctuations. If we have an unusually good year, I might bump it up mid-year when I see how the investments are performing. You can update your W-4 anytime with your employer.

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Has anyone considered making quarterly estimated tax payments instead of adjusting withholdings? I have a similar situation with investment income that varies year to year, and I find it easier to just make a quarterly payment when I know how the investments are performing rather than trying to predict it at the beginning of the year.

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This is what we do! Our investments are too unpredictable to set a fixed withholding. We just make estimated payments using the 1040-ES form in the quarters when we have significant capital gains or dividends. It's much more accurate than trying to guess at the beginning of the year.

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