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Maya Lewis

Still confused about filing requirements - 1040 and 1042-S for retirement withdrawal?

Hey everyone, I'm really struggling to make sense of my tax situation and could use some help... I was living in Texas from November 2019 until September 2021, which made me a tax resident in the US for 2021. This means I need to file a 1040 for this tax year. The complication is that I decided to cash out my US retirement savings in November 2021 after I moved back to Australia (didn't make sense to keep it there). When I withdrew the funds, they withheld a significant amount for taxes (I think the maximum rate plus the 10% early withdrawal penalty). I just found out I'll be receiving a 1042-S form for this income, which I thought was only for non-residents/foreign nationals. **Does anyone know if tax software like Sprintax will let me include my 1042-S income when filing my 1040?** If not, how do I go about trying to recover some of the tax that was withheld? I'm pretty sure they took too much. Thanks for any guidance!

You're dealing with a somewhat unique situation, but I can help clear things up for you. When you're a resident alien for part of the tax year (your time in Texas) but a nonresident for another part (after moving to Australia), you're what's called a "dual-status alien" for tax purposes. This usually means filing a 1040 for the resident portion and a 1040NR for the nonresident portion. The 1042-S form is typically used to report income paid to foreign persons, including retirement distributions to nonresidents. Since you received your distribution after leaving the US, the payer treated you as a nonresident and used the 1042-S. Regarding your question about Sprintax - yes, it's designed specifically for situations like yours and should allow you to report your 1042-S income. You'll need to indicate your dual-status, and the software should guide you through reporting both types of income. If too much tax was withheld (which is common with foreign distributions), filing correctly should result in a refund of the excess withholding. The standard withholding rate for nonresidents is 30% plus any applicable penalty, which might be higher than your actual tax liability.

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Thanks for this explanation! I have a similar situation but I'm getting both a W-2 and a 1042-S. Does that mean I was classified differently by different employers? And do I definitely need special tax software or can I use something like TurboTax?

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Receiving both a W-2 and a 1042-S means your employers classified your tax status differently. Your W-2 employer treated you as a US resident/citizen while the 1042-S issuer treated you as a nonresident alien. This often happens during transition years when you have income from both before and after changing your residency status. Standard tax software like TurboTax can handle dual-status returns but may not have specialized guidance for international situations. Sprintax and similar international-focused tax preparation software are specifically designed for these scenarios and generally provide better support for forms like 1042-S and dealing with foreign tax issues. They often save people in your situation a lot of headaches.

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One thing to watch out for with the 1042-S - check your tax treaty! I'm from Ireland and we have specific provisions for retirement accounts in our treaty with the US. I was able to get back almost half of what was withheld because the treaty rate was much lower than the standard 30% withholding. The key is making sure you properly claim the treaty benefit on your return. If you were a resident when you contributed to the retirement plan but nonresident when you withdrew, it gets complicated.

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Do you happen to know where in the tax forms you claim the treaty benefits? I've been looking through the 1040 instructions and I'm totally lost.

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You'll need to attach Form 8833 (Treaty-Based Return Position Disclosure) to your tax return if you're claiming treaty benefits. On the form, you'll need to cite the specific treaty article that applies to your situation. For retirement accounts specifically, you'll report the income normally on your return, but then identify the applicable treaty article that modifies how it's taxed. The exact location depends on what type of retirement account it was - for example, 401(k) distributions typically go on line 5 of Form 1040, but you'd need to include Form 8833 explaining why the treaty reduces your tax liability.

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Does anyone know if the 10% early withdrawal penalty applies differently when you're dealing with a 1042-S versus regular 1099-R distribution? I'm in a somewhat similar situation but can't figure out if I still get hit with the penalty as a non-resident.

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From what I understand, the 10% early withdrawal penalty is part of US domestic tax law and applies to US residents/citizens. If you're being treated as a nonresident (getting 1042-S), you're generally subject to flat withholding under Chapter 3 rules, not the additional penalty. But don't take my word for it - check with a tax pro.

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Thanks for the insight! I did some more research and it looks like you're right - as a nonresident, I'm generally subject to the flat 30% withholding (or lower treaty rate) but not the additional 10% early withdrawal penalty. This is a huge relief since that would have been another $5,400 on my distribution.

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