Standard Deduction vs Being Claimed as Dependent - Teen Making 50k
Hey everyone, I'm really frustrated right now. I'm 17 and worked my butt off last year making about 50k (all earned income). The year before I only made around 25k. My dad has always claimed me as a dependent on his taxes, which was fine before because it didn't really affect my return much. But this year it's a totally different story! I now OWE $800 that I have to pay out of pocket myself, while my dad gets all the tax benefits of claiming me. Does this seem fair to anyone? I mean, I understand family finances are complicated, but $800 is a lot of money to me. I've tried bringing it up casually but I don't want to cause family drama. How should I approach this conversation with him? Has anyone dealt with something similar with their parents about the standard deduction vs. being claimed as a dependent?
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Natasha Volkova
This is actually a common issue for working teens. When your parent claims you as a dependent, you can't claim your own standard deduction (which would be quite valuable with your income level). At 17 with $50k income, here's what's happening: Your dad gets a tax benefit for claiming you (probably the child tax credit and maybe education credits if applicable), while you lose your ability to claim the full standard deduction. Since you can only take what's called the "standard deduction for dependents" (which is much smaller), more of your income becomes taxable, resulting in that $800 you owe. Have an honest conversation with your dad. Many parents don't realize this financial impact. Calculate both scenarios - what your dad saves by claiming you versus what you'd save filing independently. If your dad's benefit is greater than your $800 loss, maybe he could reimburse you the difference. If your benefit would be greater, show him the math.
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Javier Torres
•So if the parents benefit more than the kid, wouldn't it make sense for the parents to reimburse the kid for what they're losing? Also, at what age can someone no longer be claimed as a dependent?
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Natasha Volkova
•Yes, that's exactly right - a fair approach would be for the parent to reimburse the child for the tax impact if the parent's benefit is greater. Many families do this calculation and share the benefit accordingly. Regarding age, there's no specific age limit for dependency. For a qualifying child, you must be under 19, or under 24 if you're a full-time student. There are additional tests like relationship, residency, and support. If you provide more than half of your own support, your parent might not legally be able to claim you regardless of your age.
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Emma Davis
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Malik Johnson
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Emma Davis
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Malik Johnson
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Freya Thomsen
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Omar Fawaz
I see a lot of people talking about the tax benefits, but there's another angle to consider. Your parents might be counting on that dependent deduction for their overall family budget. Have you tried asking your dad how much he's saving by claiming you? $800 feels like a lot to you, but he might be saving $2000+ on his taxes. What about proposing a compromise where he still claims you but reimburses you for the $800? That way he still gets whatever additional benefit there is, but you're not out any money. And it avoids the awkward discussion about whether you're "independent" or not, which can be touchy for some parents.
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CosmicCommander
•I never thought about it that way. The reason I was hesitant to bring it up is because I didn't want to cause tension, but a compromise could work. Do you think there's a tactful way to bring up this reimbursement idea without sounding like I'm just asking for money?
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Omar Fawaz
•Approach it as a practical math problem rather than an emotional issue. Say something like: "Dad, I noticed that being claimed as a dependent is costing me $800 in taxes this year. I understand it probably saves our family more overall, but that's a big hit for me. Could we look at the numbers together and find a fair solution? Maybe you could help cover some of what I'm losing?" Most parents don't realize the tax impact on their working teens. Frame it as working together to maximize the family's overall financial situation. This makes it about smart family finances rather than independence or money-grabbing. Avoid phrases like "it's not fair" and stick to the practical impacts.
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Chloe Martin
something nobody mentioned - are you a full-time student? if you're 17 and in high school then your dad probably legally CAN claim you as a dependent. but if you're providing more than half your own support (rent, food, etc) with that 50k, then he might not legally be allowed to claim you. the IRS has tests for this. also, what are you doing making 50k at 17?? im jealous lol. i'm 22 and only making 42k with a college degree. whatever you're doing, keep it up!
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Diego Rojas
•This is important! The "support test" is key here. If OP is providing more than half of their own support, the parent might not legally be able to claim them regardless of age or living situation. The IRS has a worksheet for calculating this.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•Wait, I thought the support test was only for kids over 19? Or is that a different rule?
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