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Harmony Love

Should I reduce my work hours to avoid getting taxed at Walmart?

I'm currently a college student working at Walmart making $14/hr. Right now I work 3 days a week (about 24 hours), which comes out to around 48 hours on each biweekly paycheck. By my calculations, I'm on track to earn about $16,128 annually before taxes. I've only been working for about 8 months and never had a job before this. My dad recently suggested I should cut back to just 2 days a week so my income stays below $12k or $11k for the year. According to him, this would keep me from paying any tax or at least avoid the 12% tax bracket. He says I'm just stressing myself out by working that extra day. For context, my expenses are pretty basic - just car payment, insurance, and gas. These take up one full paycheck plus a bit from my second check each month, but I can still save around $400 monthly which I've been putting toward my car's principal. Would cutting my hours actually be worth it tax-wise? Am I missing something about how this works? The numbers I mentioned are just what I remember my dad telling me, so please correct me if anything seems off. Thanks for any advice!

Rudy Cenizo

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Your dad means well but is giving you slightly misguided advice! The way our tax system works is through "marginal tax brackets" - you only pay the higher percentage on dollars earned ABOVE each threshold, not on your entire income. For 2025, the standard deduction for a single person is projected to be around $14,000. This means your first $14,000 is completely tax-free! So if you earn $16,128, only about $2,128 would be taxable at the lowest 10% bracket - that's roughly $213 in federal income tax for the entire year. By cutting your hours to stay under the standard deduction, you'd give up thousands in income to save just a couple hundred in taxes. That extra day of work is absolutely worth it financially! You'd be earning about $5,376 more annually by working 3 days instead of 2, while only paying about $213 in taxes on that money. Keep working that third day if you can handle it with your studies. That $400+ you're saving monthly is building great financial habits that will benefit you long-term!

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Natalie Khan

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Wait, I thought it was different for dependents though? Doesn't the standard deduction change if OP's parents still claim them on their taxes? I remember reading something about a lower threshold for dependents...

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Rudy Cenizo

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You're absolutely right to ask about dependent status - it does change things. For dependents in 2025, the standard deduction is projected to be either $1,300 or your earned income plus $400 (up to the regular standard deduction amount). Since OP is earning wages, their standard deduction would essentially be their earned income plus $400, capped at the regular standard deduction amount. With $16,128 in earnings, they'd get the full standard deduction even as a dependent, keeping the tax situation similar to what I described.

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Daryl Bright

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Sienna Gomez

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Does this actually show you your take-home pay after ALL deductions? Like not just federal but also state, social security, medicare etc? My paychecks always seem so much smaller than I expect...

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Daryl Bright

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Tyrone Hill

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One thing nobody's mentioned is state taxes! Federal might have that nice standard deduction, but some states start taxing you at much lower income levels. What state are you in? That could change the calculation a bit.

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Harmony Love

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I'm in Texas, so I think there's no state income tax here? That's one less thing to worry about I guess. Does that change your opinion on whether I should keep the extra day of work?

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Tyrone Hill

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That's great news! Texas has no state income tax, so you don't have to worry about that part at all. This makes the decision even clearer - definitely keep working that third day if you can manage it with your studies. With no state income tax, the only taxes you'll pay are federal income tax (which as others mentioned will be minimal due to the standard deduction) and FICA (Social Security and Medicare, which is about 7.65% of your income). Even with those taxes, you're still keeping the vast majority of what you earn from that third day.

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Toot-n-Mighty

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Don't forget about the EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit)! If you're not claimed as a dependent, you might actually get money BACK from the government if you earn within a certain range. Sometimes earning more can actually increase your refund up to a point.

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Lena Kowalski

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I think there's an age requirement for EITC though? Isn't it like 25 years old minimum if you don't have kids? OP sounds younger than that.

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The biggest thing to remember is that you only get taxed on income ABOVE the standard deduction. Working more always means more money in your pocket, even after taxes. Your dad's advice is coming from a good place but it's based on a misunderstanding of how our tax system works. Also, you're developing good work experience and habits! That's worth something too, even beyond the immediate financial benefits.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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I'm a tax preparer and wanted to jump in to confirm what everyone else is saying - your dad's heart is in the right place, but he's definitely misunderstanding how taxes work! The key thing to remember is that we have a "progressive" tax system. This means you only pay higher tax rates on income ABOVE certain thresholds, not on your entire income. So even if you did hit the 12% bracket (which you won't at $16k), you'd only pay 12% on the dollars above that threshold. At your income level of around $16,128, here's what would actually happen: - First ~$14,000: $0 in federal income tax (standard deduction) - Remaining ~$2,128: 10% federal tax = about $213 - Total federal income tax for the year: ~$213 You'd also pay FICA taxes (Social Security/Medicare) of about 7.65%, but that's unavoidable regardless of your income level and isn't affected by working fewer hours. So to save $213 in taxes, your dad is suggesting you give up thousands in income. That math just doesn't work out! Keep that third day if you can handle it with school - you're building great financial habits that will serve you well in the future.

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This is such a helpful breakdown! As someone who's new to understanding taxes, I really appreciate you laying out the actual numbers. It's crazy how much misinformation gets passed around about tax brackets - I bet a lot of people make poor financial decisions because they don't understand how progressive taxation works. Quick question though - does the FICA tax rate ever change based on income level, or is it always that 7.65% regardless?

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Great question! FICA taxes are actually a bit more complex than that flat 7.65% rate. Here's how it breaks down: - Social Security: 6.2% on wages up to $160,200 (2025 limit) - so most people pay this on all their income - Medicare: 1.45% on ALL wages with no cap - Additional Medicare: 0.9% on wages over $200,000 (single filers) So for most workers like OP, it's effectively that 7.65% rate (6.2% + 1.45%). But high earners actually pay less as a percentage once they hit the Social Security wage cap, though they do get hit with that additional Medicare tax at very high incomes. The key point is that unlike income taxes, FICA taxes start from dollar one - there's no "standard deduction" equivalent. So you'll pay that 7.65% whether you make $1,000 or $16,000 or $100,000 (up to the caps mentioned above).

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