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Maggie Martinez

Should I become an Enrolled Agent if I don't want to practice? Tax knowledge worth it?

I've always been fascinated by tax law and really enjoy studying it alongside personal finance. I love understanding how to legally minimize my taxable income to the absolute lowest possible amount. But here's my dilemma: *I have zero interest in actually working as an Enrolled Agent for clients.* Currently, I have a regular W-2 job that I enjoy, plus I do some 1099 contract work through my LLC (probably converting to an S-corp within the next year). I'm planning to launch multiple businesses over the next few years, which is partly why I'm considering the EA certification. Where I struggle is that I constantly have creative ideas about optimizing my tax situation, but I feel limited by what I actually know about possibilities and implementation. I waste so much time consulting my current EA about random ideas, never quite knowing the right questions to ask or what's truly possible. I'm thinking it might make sense to just become an EA myself so I can have those strategic conversations internally and execute plans with my own knowledge rather than relying on someone else. As a backup plan, my father-in-law runs an estate law practice, so I suppose I could potentially collaborate with him if needed. What do you all think? Is getting the EA certification worth it if I don't plan to use it professionally for clients?

Having been an EA for over 15 years, I can definitely see where you're coming from. The knowledge you gain studying for the EA exam is incredibly valuable for personal and business tax planning, even if you never prepare a single return for someone else. The EA exam covers individual taxation, business taxation, and representation - all areas that would directly benefit someone running multiple businesses. The concepts you'll learn about entity structures, retirement planning, and income shifting strategies could easily save you thousands each year. Plus, you'll gain a much deeper understanding of what documentation you need to maintain and what deductions are legitimate. That said, becoming an EA requires significant time investment - we're talking hundreds of study hours and maintaining continuing education requirements. You might consider taking a comprehensive tax course first to see if the level of detail is something you truly enjoy before committing to the full EA path.

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Monique Byrd

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This is really helpful! How many hours did you spend studying for the EA exams? And do you think it's possible to maintain the continuing education requirements while working full-time in a non-tax field?

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I spent about 300 hours studying for all three parts of the exam, but that varies widely depending on your background knowledge. Most people with good tax fundamentals can do it with focused study over 6-9 months. As for continuing education, it's very manageable alongside a full-time job. You need 72 hours every three years, and there are plenty of online options that let you complete them on evenings or weekends. Many of my colleagues fulfill the requirements through self-study courses and webinars they can do at their convenience.

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Romeo Barrett

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As someone who went through this exact dilemma, I'd suggest a middle ground: take the comprehensive tax course offered by many EA prep programs without actually sitting for the exam. That's what I did, and it's given me about 80% of the knowledge without the commitment to continuing education requirements. I run two businesses (fitness studio and online consulting) and the tax knowledge from the course has saved me at least $12,000 annually. I've learned enough to: - Structure my entities properly - Time major purchases strategically - Set up a solo 401k that shelters significant income - Document business expenses properly to withstand scrutiny My accountant now implements my ideas rather than the other way around. Best decision I ever made.

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Which course did you take? There are so many options out there and I'm overwhelmed trying to figure out which one would be best for someone who wants the knowledge but not necessarily the credential.

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Romeo Barrett

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I took the Passkey EA Review course. They offer a comprehensive study program that includes all the materials you'd need to actually pass the exam, but you can just use it for the knowledge. Their business section was particularly helpful for entity structure planning. Another good option is the Gleim EA Review - they have really clear explanations of complex topics and good practical examples. Both courses run around $500-700 depending on what package you choose, which is a fraction of what you'll save with the knowledge.

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Justin Trejo

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Has anyone actually calculated the ROI on becoming an EA? Like compare the time spent studying (which looks massive from what people are saying) vs just paying a really good tax strategist for a few hours of their time each year? Seems like it might be more efficient to just pay for expertise rather than become the expert...

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Alana Willis

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I did this calculation before pursuing my EA. Assuming: - 300 hours of study time - Value of your time at $50/hour - $500 for study materials - $600 for exam fees That's roughly a $16,100 investment. A good tax strategist might charge $300-500/hour, so you'd get 30-50 hours of consulting for the same price. HOWEVER, the knowledge lasts a lifetime and compounds each year. For me, it's saved roughly $9,000 annually across my businesses through strategies I wouldn't have known to ask about. Break-even was less than 2 years.

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Sofia Morales

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I was in almost the exact same situation as you about 2 years ago - fascinated by tax strategy but no desire to prepare returns for clients. I ultimately decided to pursue the EA certification and it's been one of the best investments I've made. Here's what I learned: the EA exam forces you to understand not just what tax strategies exist, but WHY they work and when they apply. This deeper understanding has been invaluable for my own businesses. I can now spot opportunities my previous accountant was missing and have meaningful conversations about complex strategies. The time investment is real though - I spent about 250 hours studying over 8 months while working full-time. But consider this: those hours gave me knowledge that saves me thousands every year and will continue to do so for decades. One unexpected benefit: having the EA credential gives you credibility when discussing strategies with other professionals. My attorney and financial advisor take my tax planning ideas much more seriously now, which has led to better overall wealth planning. If you're truly passionate about tax law like you describe, I'd say go for it. The knowledge compounds over time, especially as your business ventures grow more complex.

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Luca Greco

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This is exactly the perspective I was hoping to hear! The credibility aspect is something I hadn't really considered but makes total sense. I can see how having the actual credential would change the dynamic when working with other professionals. Your point about understanding the "why" behind strategies really resonates with me. I feel like I'm constantly trying to piece together incomplete information from various sources, and it sounds like the EA path would give me that comprehensive foundation I'm looking for. 250 hours over 8 months actually seems more manageable than some of the other estimates I've seen. Did you find certain parts of the exam more valuable than others for your own business planning purposes?

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