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Severely behind on Partnership LLC taxes - K1 and 1065 questions for small business

So my husband and I started a small landscaping business as a Partnership LLC back in 2021, and we've been absolutely terrible with our tax situation. We've calculated all our income and expenses, but I'm now realizing we should have filed a K-1 for each of us? I'm using TurboTax and it keeps asking for a K-1 from our company, but we never created or filed any K-1 forms. Is the K-1 absolutely necessary or is there any way around this? And if we do need to file K-1 forms, is it too late to do it now for 2021? Where would I even go to file those? I'm also now seeing that we never filed Form 1065 for the partnership. Are we completely screwed for our 2021 taxes at this point? For context, we're a small landscaping business where we split everything 50/50. I'm seriously stressed about this situation and don't know where to begin fixing it.

You're not "screwed" but you do need to address this ASAP. As a partnership LLC, you're required to file Form 1065 (partnership return) which then generates Schedule K-1 forms for each partner. The K-1 is what reports each partner's share of income/losses that flows to your personal tax returns. Since you're operating as a 50/50 partnership, both you and your husband need K-1s showing your portion of the business income and deductions. TurboTax is correctly prompting you for this because that's how partnership income must be reported to the IRS. You should file the late 1065 immediately. There are penalties for late filing, but they're much better than not filing at all. The penalty is $210 per partner per month late (max 12 months), but the IRS may offer penalty relief if you have reasonable cause and this is your first time being late.

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Does being a first-time business owner with no knowledge of these requirements count as reasonable cause? Or is that just negligence?

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Being a first-time business owner may help your case, though the IRS doesn't consider simple lack of knowledge to be reasonable cause by itself. However, they do look at your entire situation - if you can demonstrate you made a good faith effort to comply but were confused by the complexities of business taxation, they might be lenient. The IRS defines reasonable cause as circumstances beyond your control, so emphasize any difficulties you encountered in understanding your filing obligations despite attempting to learn. The key is showing you tried to comply rather than willfully neglecting your obligations.

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This sounds like BS. There's no way to "skip the line" with the IRS. They're probably just autodialing and hanging on hold themselves, then charging you a premium for it. Has anyone verified this actually works?

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You should look into filing Form 1065-X to amend the original partnership return, but first you actually need to file the original 1065. You can use tax software like TurboTax Business or hire a CPA who specializes in partnerships to help get caught up. The sooner you handle this, the better, as penalties increase over time. Also, consider making an estimated tax payment immediately to stop additional interest from accruing. Even if you don't know the exact amount, paying something now will reduce future charges. The IRS looks more favorably on taxpayers who make voluntary payments before being contacted.

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Can they even file a 1065-X when they never filed the original 1065 in the first place? I thought X forms were just for corrections to previously filed returns.

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You're absolutely right - I should have been clearer. You can't file a 1065-X without first filing the original Form 1065. You need to file the original 1065 first, and generate the K-1s from that filing. Then, if you later discover any errors or omissions in that original filing, that's when you'd use Form 1065-X to make corrections. Thanks for pointing this out - I didn't mean to create confusion.

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Does your state have separate requirements for partnership LLCs? In my state, I had to file state-specific forms in addition to the federal 1065 and K-1s. Some states impose their own penalties for late filing too.

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Good point! Here in California, we had to file Form 565 for our partnership along with the federal forms. The state penalties were actually worse than the federal ones in our case.

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Don't panic - this is fixable! As others have mentioned, you'll need to file Form 1065 for each year you missed, which will generate the K-1s that TurboTax is asking for. The K-1s are absolutely required - they show each partner's share of income, deductions, and credits that flow through to your personal returns. Here's what I'd recommend doing immediately: 1. Gather all your business records (income, expenses, bank statements) for 2021-2023 2. File Form 1065 for each missed year starting with 2021 3. The 1065 will automatically generate Schedule K-1s for both you and your husband 4. Use those K-1s to complete your personal tax returns You can file late returns yourself using tax software or hire a CPA who specializes in partnerships. While there will be penalties (around $210 per partner per month late), getting compliant now is much better than continuing to avoid it. The IRS is generally reasonable about penalty relief for first-time offenders who show good faith effort to correct the situation. Also check if your state requires separate partnership filings - many do, and you'll want to get those caught up too.

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