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Yuki Ito

Setting up a private family foundation in our primary home - tax benefits and considerations

My wife and I have been donating to a handful of charities and our church for years, but I recently discovered the concept of private family foundations that can grow investments almost tax-free. This seems like it could really amplify our charitable impact since the investment returns I get from managing our portfolio would outpace our normal annual giving increases. If we set this up in our home, I'd need to dedicate an office space specifically for managing the foundation's investments, website, and charity outreach. From a tax perspective, can we expense a percentage of our home based on square footage for things like mortgage interest and property taxes? I assume we'd need a documented expense policy and keep all receipts. Also, does anyone know if H&R Block handles Form 990-PF filings? Would love to hear any personal experiences or other considerations I should be aware of before jumping in. Thanks!

Carmen Lopez

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Setting up a private family foundation can be a great way to maximize charitable impact, but there are some important things to consider. For the home office deduction: Yes, you can potentially deduct a portion of your home expenses based on the percentage of space used exclusively for foundation business. This applies to mortgage interest, property taxes, utilities, insurance, and maintenance costs. The key word is "exclusively" - the space must be used solely for foundation activities. Keep detailed records of square footage calculations and all related expenses. Regarding tax filings, private foundations must file Form 990-PF annually regardless of income level. While H&R Block's premium software might support this, most people with foundations use specialized accountants familiar with nonprofit regulations since the filing requirements are complex and penalties for errors can be severe. Other considerations: Private foundations must distribute at least 5% of their net investment assets annually, are subject to excise taxes on investment income (1-2%), and have strict rules against self-dealing. The startup and ongoing administrative costs can be substantial - legal fees for creation, accounting services, and potential audit costs should all be factored in.

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This is super helpful! I've been thinking about something similar. Do you need a minimum amount to start a foundation? I've heard different numbers thrown around.

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Carmen Lopez

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There's no legal minimum to start a private foundation, but realistically you should consider at least $250,000-$500,000 to justify the setup and ongoing compliance costs. Many advisors suggest $1-3 million as a practical minimum since annual legal/accounting fees typically run $5,000-$15,000 regardless of foundation size. The 5% annual distribution requirement also means smaller foundations may struggle to make meaningful grants while covering administrative expenses. Some families find donor-advised funds more cost-effective for smaller amounts as they have similar tax benefits but far less administrative burden.

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Andre Dupont

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How does it work exactly? Do I just upload my documents somewhere? I'm always nervous about sharing financial info online.

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Jamal Wilson

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Is it actually worth the cost? These services always seem overpriced for what you get, especially when there are free resources online. Not trying to be negative, just wondering if it's really that much better than just hiring a good accountant who specializes in nonprofits.

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Andre Dupont

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Jamal Wilson

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Mei Lin

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Wait, how does this actually work? The IRS phone system is completely broken - I tried calling them last month and gave up after an hour on hold. How can this service possibly get through when nobody else can?

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GalacticGuru

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Mei Lin

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GalacticGuru

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Amara Nnamani

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - have you considered a Donor Advised Fund (DAF) instead of a private foundation? I started with a DAF and it's WAY simpler from a tax and administration perspective. With a DAF, you get the tax deduction immediately when you contribute, the funds can grow tax-free, and you don't have to deal with Form 990-PF filings or excise taxes on investment income. The sponsoring organization handles all the administrative stuff. The main downsides compared to a private foundation: you can't take a salary for managing it, can't do direct charitable activities (only grants to other charities), and technically the sponsoring organization has final say over distributions (though they almost always follow your recommendations). For most families with less than $5-10 million to donate, a DAF is much more cost-effective. Just something to consider before jumping into the private foundation world!

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Yuki Ito

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Thanks for bringing this up! I've looked into DAFs and they definitely seem simpler administratively. My main reason for leaning toward a private foundation is the desire to be more directly involved in charitable activities rather than just making grants. We're considering some hands-on community projects that wouldn't fit the DAF model. Also, I'm comfortable with investment management and think I could potentially generate better returns than the limited investment options most DAF sponsors offer. But you're absolutely right about the administrative burden - that's a significant consideration.

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Amara Nnamani

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That makes sense. Direct charitable activities are definitely a key advantage of private foundations. Just make sure you're factoring in all the costs - not just the tax preparation and legal fees, but also the time commitment for compliance work. If you're set on the foundation route, consider a consultation with a nonprofit attorney before setting everything up. They can help structure things to maximize the tax benefits of your home office while avoiding common pitfalls. The self-dealing rules are particularly tricky when operating from your primary residence - easy to inadvertently cross lines that could result in significant penalties.

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Consider creating a separate entrance for your home office if possible! When I set up my foundation, my accountant strongly recommended this to strengthen the case for exclusive business use. If IRS ever questions it, having a separate entrance makes it much more defensible. Also, make sure you understand the difference between a "home office deduction" (Schedule C) versus "reimbursed expenses" from the foundation. They're treated differently. The foundation can reimburse you for the actual expenses related to that space, but it must be reasonable and documented with a formal board-approved policy. Don't forget insurance considerations too - you may need additional liability coverage when running a foundation from home. Standard homeowners policies often exclude business activities.

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This separate entrance thing is interesting. Does it have to be completely separate from the rest of the house, or could it be something like a door from the garage that leads directly to the office space?

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It doesn't need to be entirely separate from the house - a dedicated entrance from the garage would definitely help strengthen your case. The key is demonstrating that the space is truly used exclusively for foundation business and has some physical separation from personal living areas. Some other practical tips: install a separate phone line for foundation business, keep detailed logs of time spent on foundation activities, take clear photos documenting the space is set up exclusively for foundation work, and consider a separate utility meter if possible (though this isn't required). All of these elements build your case that this is a legitimate business space, not just a multi-purpose room in your home.

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