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Logan Greenburg

Semi-Weekly 941 Deposit Schedule Causing Failure to Pay Notices - Help!

My wife and I run a small business together and recently got bumped from monthly to semi-weekly federal tax deposit schedule. Just what I needed, more paperwork! 😒 So I've been diligently making our deposits weekly - our employees get paid every Monday, and I've been scheduling and paying the 941 deposits every Friday without fail. But for some reason, we keep getting these penalty notices saying we failed to pay on time. The frustrating thing is these notices make zero sense. On the back page it shows all my weekly payments as received, but then claims they're anywhere from 2 to 81 days late! I'm losing my mind trying to figure this out. I went to our local IRS office in person and they were basically useless. They did waive the fees (for now), but couldn't even explain why we're getting hit with late penalties when I'm clearly making payments. Every time I try calling the IRS hotline, it's the same recording about the 941 department being swamped with calls and to "try again tomorrow" - which I've done about 20 times now. I'm at my wit's end and hoping someone here has dealt with this before and can explain what's happening. Is there something about semi-weekly deposit rules I'm completely missing? Thanks in advance for any help!

The semi-weekly deposit system is often misunderstood. It's not actually about making deposits every week - it's about which days of the week you must deposit based on your payday. If your payday (when you pay wages) falls on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday, your deposit is due by the following Wednesday. If your payday falls on Saturday, Sunday, Monday, or Tuesday, your deposit is due by the following Friday. Since you mentioned you pay employees on Monday and make deposits on Friday, that timing is correct. However, the issue might be with the payment timing relative to the pay period end date rather than the actual payday. The IRS looks at when the tax liability was incurred, not just when you paid wages. Check your deposit dates against the actual semi-weekly deposit schedule rules using the IRS Tax Calendar or publication 15. Also, make sure you're selecting the correct payment date when scheduling the payments through EFTPS - this is a common source of confusion.

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That's actually really helpful, thank you! I think I might be making a mistake with how I'm scheduling the payments. When you say the IRS looks at when the tax liability was incurred, does that mean the pay period end date rather than the payday? Our pay periods end on Fridays but we pay the following Monday. Also, I've been using the EFTPS system - is there a specific field where I need to designate the tax period the payment applies to? Maybe that's where the confusion is happening.

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The tax liability is considered incurred on the date you pay the wages, not when the pay period ends. So if you're paying wages on Monday for work done the previous week, Monday is when the liability is incurred. For EFTPS, you need to be careful about two things: First, make sure you're selecting the correct tax period (quarter and year) that the payment applies to. Second, pay attention to the "Settlement Date" field - this is the date the IRS considers the payment received, not the date you initiated the transaction. If you schedule a payment too late in the day, the settlement date might roll to the next business day, potentially making your deposit late according to the semi-weekly rules.

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Lucas Bey

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Just wanted to follow up - I tried that taxr.ai service after seeing your comment and it was actually super helpful! I uploaded my own 941 deposit notices and payment records, and within minutes it showed me that I was making my deposits correctly timing-wise, but I was using the wrong tax type code in the EFTPS system. Instead of selecting "941 Tax Deposit" I was sometimes selecting "941 Quarterly Return" which was causing the system to misapply my payments. No wonder I kept getting those penalty notices! Never would have figured that out on my own since the IRS notices are so vague. They even provided a template letter for requesting penalty abatement based on reasonable cause. Just submitted it yesterday so fingers crossed!

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Jade O'Malley

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Wait, so you pay them to call the IRS for you? How much does that cost? And how do they get through when nobody else can?

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Ella Lewis

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I need to eat my words and apologize. After my skeptical comment yesterday, I decided to try Claimyr as a last resort for a different tax issue I've been dealing with. I've been trying to reach the IRS for MONTHS about some tax deposits that were misapplied. It actually worked exactly as described. I got a call back in about 90 minutes with an IRS agent already on the line. The agent was able to pull up my account and immediately saw the problem - several of my semi-weekly deposits had been applied to the wrong tax periods because of how I was entering them in EFTPS. She made the corrections right there on the call and I just checked my account online - all the penalties have been reversed! I would have continued getting the runaround for who knows how long if I hadn't been able to speak directly with someone who could actually fix the issue.

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - there's a special rule for semi-weekly depositors when you have $100,000 or more in tax liability on any day. In that case, you have to deposit by the next banking day, regardless of the normal Wednesday/Friday schedule. Is it possible you hit that threshold on any payday and didn't realize the different rule applied? That would explain why the IRS system might flag some of your deposits as late even though you thought you were following the schedule.

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That's an interesting point, but we're nowhere near that size. Our typical weekly payroll tax liability is around $4,200, so we're well under that $100,000 threshold. I'm starting to think it's definitely an issue with how I'm designating the tax periods in EFTPS based on what others have said.

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That makes sense. Then I'd definitely focus on the tax period designation issue others mentioned. One more thing to check - make sure you're using the correct EIN when making the deposits. If you have multiple businesses or changed your business structure recently, it's easy to mix them up.

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Has anyone else noticed that the IRS seems to be sending out WAY more incorrect notices lately? I swear half my clients are getting penalty notices for deposits that were clearly made on time. I'm wondering if there's some glitch in their system since they updated their computer systems.

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Alexis Renard

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YES! I work at an accounting firm and we've seen a huge spike in incorrect notices this year. We're spending so much time dealing with these that it's cutting into our regular work. Most of them end up being IRS errors that get resolved, but the time wasted is ridiculous.

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Liam Sullivan

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This is incredibly frustrating and you're definitely not alone! I've been dealing with semi-weekly deposits for about 3 years now and the learning curve is steep. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track everything: pay date, deposit due date, actual deposit date, tax period it applies to, and the exact codes I'm using in EFTPS. This made it much easier to spot patterns when I was getting notices. Also, if you haven't already, request a transcript of your account from the IRS (Form 4506-T). Sometimes what shows up on the penalty notices doesn't match what's actually in their system, and the transcript will show you exactly how they've applied each payment. The fact that your local IRS office waived the fees suggests they know there's confusion on their end too. Don't give up - once you figure out the exact issue it becomes much more manageable. Keep detailed records of everything for now so you can prove your case if needed.

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Sean Flanagan

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This is such solid advice! I'm definitely going to create that tracking spreadsheet - seems like having everything in one place would make it so much easier to spot patterns or mistakes. The transcript idea is brilliant too. I never thought about the possibility that the penalty notices might not match what's actually in their system. That could explain why the notices seem so contradictory - showing my payments as received but still claiming they're late. I'm feeling a bit more hopeful after reading everyone's responses. It sounds like this is a common issue that can be resolved once you figure out the specific problem. Going to request that transcript and start documenting everything more systematically. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!

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One thing that might help is understanding that the IRS penalty calculation system is largely automated and doesn't always account for nuances in how payments are processed through EFTPS. I've seen cases where the system flags deposits as late even when they were technically submitted on time. A few specific things to double-check: 1. When you schedule your EFTPS payment, make sure the "effective date" (when the money actually leaves your account) falls on or before the deposit deadline - not just when you initiate the transaction. 2. Be very careful about the "Tax Period" dropdown in EFTPS. For semi-weekly deposits, you need to select the specific quarter AND make sure you're not accidentally selecting "Annual" or "Monthly" instead of the quarterly option. 3. Bank holidays can throw off the timing. If your due date falls on a banking holiday, the deposit is due the next business day, but the EFTPS system doesn't always make this clear. I'd also suggest calling the Practitioner Priority Service line at 866-860-4259 if you or your tax preparer has a PTIN. It's a separate line with much shorter wait times than the general taxpayer line. Even if you're not a practitioner yourself, many enrolled agents will make this call on behalf of clients for a small fee. The good news is that first-time penalty abatement is usually granted automatically if you have a clean compliance history, so don't stress too much about the immediate financial impact while you figure this out.

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