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Freya Larsen

Received CP3219A notice after responding to CP2000 for crypto losses - what now?

So here's my situation that's driving me crazy. Back in December 2023, I got hit with a CP2000 notice for my 2021 taxes. The IRS completely messed up and assumed I had made profits from my crypto transactions when I actually had a loss of several thousand. I immediately responded before their deadline by sending in my 1099 forms showing the losses along with an amended return to clear everything up. Fast forward to yesterday - I just received a CP3219A notice saying I still owe the full amount they originally claimed (around $5,800). I'm really confused since I submitted everything they asked for back in December, right before their deadline. Is it possible they sent this new CP3219A before processing my amended return? Do I need to respond to this the same way I did before? I'm getting worried because this notice seems more serious than the first one. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? I don't want to end up paying taxes on crypto losses!

What you're dealing with is the IRS notice timeline overlap issue. The CP3219A is actually a Notice of Deficiency, which is more serious than the CP2000 (which was just a proposed assessment). You absolutely need to respond to this new notice. It's likely that your amended return is still in processing (the IRS is currently taking 16+ weeks for amended returns) and this notice was automatically generated before your response was fully processed. The CP3219A gives you 90 days to either pay the amount or petition the Tax Court. I'd recommend calling the IRS at the number on your notice to confirm they received your previous response. Ask them to document in their system that you've already responded to the CP2000 with documentation showing crypto losses. Request that they put a hold on any further collection activities while they process your amended return.

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Freya Larsen

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Thanks for explaining. I didn't realize the CP3219A was actually a different level of notice. The CP2000 seemed like it was just asking for clarification, but this one feels more like a demand. Is there anything specific I need to do differently with this response compared to my first one? Should I just send the same documentation again or do I need to fill out different forms?

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The CP3219A is definitely more serious - it's the last step before the IRS officially assesses the tax. You should respond by sending a copy of everything you sent before (your 1099 showing crypto losses and a copy of your amended return) along with a cover letter referencing both notice numbers (CP2000 and CP3219A). I'd also include proof that you submitted your original response before the deadline (delivery confirmation if you have it). The CP3219A response should be sent to the specific address on that notice, which might be different than where you sent your first response. Make sure to keep copies of everything and use certified mail with return receipt.

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StarStrider

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Something important to note about the CP3219A - it's a 90-day letter that gives you the right to petition the Tax Court BEFORE paying the tax. If you don't respond within 90 days either by petitioning the Tax Court or by reaching an agreement with the IRS, they will assess the tax and you'll lose your right to Tax Court without first paying. I learned this the hard way last year. Even if you think your amended return will eventually fix the issue, don't ignore the CP3219A deadline. At minimum, call the IRS to confirm they've received your documentation and ask for a hold on further action.

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Freya Larsen

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I had no idea about the Tax Court option. The notice arrived 3 days ago, so I still have plenty of time within the 90-day window. But I'm not sure I understand what "petitioning the Tax Court" actually means. Is that something I can do myself or would I need a lawyer? And would that be necessary if I'm just trying to show them documentation they already have?

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StarStrider

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Petitioning Tax Court is basically filing a formal dispute with the U.S. Tax Court, which is independent from the IRS. You can do it yourself (pro se) without a lawyer by filling out Form 2 on the Tax Court website and paying a $60 filing fee. They even have simplified procedures for cases involving less than $50,000. In your specific situation, I'd try resolving directly with the IRS first since you have documentation showing your crypto losses. Tax Court is more of a last resort if the IRS won't cooperate. But keep the 90-day deadline in mind - you can always withdraw your petition if the IRS resolves your case after you've filed with the court.

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Zara Malik

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Don't overlook the fact that the CP3219A means the IRS has officially rejected the explanation you provided for the CP2000. The automatic generation theory might be true, but you need to treat this seriously. I recommend sending a formal protest letter along with your response. Include a timeline of all communications, copies of everything you've sent before, and specifically request abatement of any penalties since you responded timely to the CP2000. Also specify that you're contesting their determination on the basis that you properly reported your crypto transactions and actually incurred losses, not gains.

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Luca Marino

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This happened to me in 2022. My CP3219A was generated about 4 weeks after I responded to the CP2000. I called the IRS and they confirmed they hadn't even looked at my CP2000 response yet when the CP3219A automatically went out. The system is completely broken.

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Freya Ross

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I dealt with this exact situation last year with my 2020 crypto taxes. The key thing to understand is that the IRS computer systems don't talk to each other very well. Your CP3219A was likely auto-generated before your amended return response was processed - this is incredibly common. Here's what worked for me: I immediately called the IRS using the number on the CP3219A notice and asked them to check if they had received my previous response to the CP2000. The agent confirmed they had it but it was sitting in a different department's queue. She was able to put a "hold" code on my account to stop any further automated notices while my case was being reviewed. The most important thing is NOT to ignore the CP3219A deadline. Even though you already responded once, treat this as a separate notice that requires a response within 90 days. Send copies of everything you sent before, but also include a cover letter that references both notice numbers and explains the timeline of your responses. One more tip - make sure you're sending your response to the correct address listed on the CP3219A notice, as it's often different from the CP2000 response address. Good luck!

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