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Realized too late I need to file Form 3520 - probably one day past deadline!

I just submitted my tax return yesterday but then it hit me - I completely forgot to file Form 3520 for a foreign trust I'm the beneficiary of. I'm freaking out because I think I'll end up being a day late on this form. I'm trying to decide if I should file for an extension (is that even possible now?) or just mail the darn form tomorrow and hope for the best? This is my first time dealing with this form and I'm not sure how strict the IRS is about the deadline for this specific form. Does anyone have experience with being slightly late on Form 3520? I'm really anxious about potential penalties.

Form 3520 is pretty important if you're required to file it, as it reports foreign trusts and certain foreign gifts. The penalties can be substantial - typically starting at $10,000 or a percentage of the unreported amounts. If you haven't sent in your tax return yet, you could file an extension (Form 4868) which will give you until October 15th to file both your return and the Form 3520. But if you've already filed your tax return, you should still submit the Form 3520 as soon as possible. The IRS sometimes waives penalties for reasonable cause, and showing that you sent it in promptly after realizing the mistake can help demonstrate good faith. When you send it, include a brief letter explaining the oversight and that you're submitting it immediately upon discovering the error. Document everything - use certified mail with return receipt so you have proof of when you sent it.

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What if they already e-filed their return? Can they still file an extension for just the Form 3520 or do they need to amend the whole return now?

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If you've already e-filed your return, you can't file an extension now - those need to be filed by the original due date. However, you don't need to amend your return just to submit Form 3520. The 3520 is filed separately from your tax return anyway, though it's due on the same date. Just mail the completed Form 3520 as soon as possible with that explanation letter I mentioned. Make sure you reference your tax return information on the form so they can match it up with your already-filed return.

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Don't stress too much about being one day late with Form 3520. I accidentally filed mine 2 weeks late last year and included a letter explaining that I was unfamiliar with the requirement. I received no penalty. The key is to file it as soon as possible - the longer you wait, the harder it is to claim it was just an honest oversight.

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That's really reassuring! Did you send yours certified mail or just regular? I'm preparing mine right now to send tomorrow morning. Also, did you reference your already filed tax return somehow in your explanation letter?

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I definitely sent it certified mail with return receipt - absolutely worth the extra few dollars for the proof of mailing date. In my letter, I included my name, address, SSN, and the tax year the Form 3520 was for, which helps them match it to my return. I kept my explanation letter pretty simple - just stated that I recently learned about the Form 3520 filing requirement, acknowledged it was past the deadline, and emphasized that I was submitting it immediately upon discovering the oversight. I also mentioned that I'd ensure timely filing in future years now that I understood the requirement.

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Small tip from someone who files Form 3520 annually - make sure you're actually required to file it. The thresholds changed a bit recently, and not all foreign trusts or gifts require this form.

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What are the current thresholds? I thought it was $100k for gifts from foreign individuals and $16,815 from foreign corporations/partnerships. Has that changed?

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Ava Kim

When I had a similar issue, I used FreeTaxUSA to file the next year and it actually reminded me about Form 3520 by asking specific questions about foreign accounts, trusts and gifts. Might be worth considering for next year to make sure you don't forget again.

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Does FreeTaxUSA actually let you complete Form 3520? I thought most tax software didn't handle the international information returns and you had to do those separately.

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Ava Kim

FreeTaxUSA doesn't actually prepare Form 3520 for you - they just have good screening questions that remind you that you need to file it separately. They'll alert you to the requirement, but you still need to complete the form yourself or with professional help. What I liked is that their questionnaire specifically asked about foreign trusts, gifts, and bequests, which many of the other tax prep programs I tried didn't explicitly mention. It helped me remember to handle those forms separately.

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Thank you all for the helpful advice! I'm feeling much less panicked now. Based on everyone's suggestions, I'm going to: 1. Complete Form 3520 today and mail it certified mail tomorrow morning 2. Include a brief explanation letter with my SSN and tax year info 3. Keep it simple - acknowledge the oversight and emphasize I'm filing immediately upon discovery Maya, your experience with being 2 weeks late and having no penalty is really reassuring. I'm also going to look into both taxr.ai and Claimyr in case I need additional help or need to speak with the IRS directly. One quick question - should I reference the specific foreign trust details in my explanation letter, or just keep it general about discovering the filing requirement? I don't want to overcomplicate things but also want to be transparent. Really appreciate this community helping a stressed taxpayer out!

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I'd keep the explanation letter general and professional. Just mention that you recently discovered the Form 3520 filing requirement and are submitting it immediately upon realizing the oversight. No need to go into specific details about the trust itself in the cover letter - all those details belong on the actual form. Your plan sounds solid! The certified mail is definitely worth it for peace of mind. I've seen people stress about this exact situation and it usually works out fine when you handle it promptly like you're doing. The IRS generally recognizes good faith efforts, especially for complex international reporting requirements that many taxpayers aren't familiar with.

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Taylor To

Just wanted to chime in as someone who's dealt with Form 3520 issues before. Your plan sounds excellent - certified mail with return receipt is absolutely the way to go, and keeping the explanation letter brief but clear is smart. One thing I'd add: make sure you're filling out the form completely and accurately. The IRS is pretty particular about Form 3520, so double-check all the sections that apply to your situation. If you're unsure about any part, it might be worth having a tax professional review it before you send it in. Also, keep copies of everything - the completed form, your explanation letter, the certified mail receipt, and the return receipt when it comes back. Having that paper trail will be invaluable if any questions come up later. You're handling this the right way by addressing it immediately. Most people in your situation who file promptly with a reasonable explanation don't face penalties. The IRS tends to be more understanding when you show good faith effort to comply once you realize the requirement.

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