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Amara Nwosu

RSU income on W-2 higher than actual earnings - Unvested RSUs showing up?

I'm so confused about my taxes this year and could really use some help! According to my paystubs, I made about $135,000 in 2023. This includes my regular salary, bonuses, PTO payments, and some weird categories like *Imp GTL, *Imp Legal, and Imputed Ben (honestly no clue what these even are, just copying from my payroll portal). My company also granted me $13,500 in RSUs, but these only vest over 4 years. If I leave before the 4 years are up, I lose the unvested portion. I've only actually vested around $4-5k worth of RSUs this year. But here's where I'm confused - my W-2 shows my income as $129,600 in box 1 and $133,650 in boxes 3/5. Based on what I actually received as cash, I didn't make more than $116,000 (my base + bonuses). Even counting the vested RSUs, that's maybe $121,000 tops. Am I somehow being taxed on RSUs that haven't vested yet? I can't figure out where these higher figures on my W-2 are coming from. Should I be paying taxes on unvested RSUs? If not, what else could be causing this difference? If there's a mistake, do I contact my company HR, the IRS, or do I need to hire a tax professional? Sorry if this is all over the place - I'm just really confused!

AstroExplorer

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The good news is that you shouldn't be taxed on unvested RSUs - only on RSUs that actually vest during the tax year. The discrepancy you're seeing is likely related to other factors. First, check if your company offers pre-tax benefits like 401(k), HSA, or healthcare premiums. These reduce your taxable wages in Box 1 but not necessarily in Boxes 3/5 (Social Security and Medicare wages), which could explain some differences between those boxes. The "Imp" items you mentioned are "imputed income" - these are non-cash benefits your employer provides that are still considered taxable income. Examples include life insurance premiums over $50,000 (Imp GTL), legal services (Imp Legal), and other benefits (Imputed Ben). Even though you don't receive these as cash, they're added to your taxable income. Also, RSUs are typically taxed at the time of vesting, not when granted. When they vest, the fair market value is included in your income, and your employer usually withholds some shares for tax purposes. Check your RSU statements to see the exact amounts that vested and were reported as income.

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Amara Nwosu

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! I do contribute to a 401(k) - about $15,000 this year - and I have health insurance premiums taken out pre-tax. Would those account for the differences between what I calculated and what's on my W-2? Also, for the imputed income items, is there a way to see exactly how much these added to my taxable income? They're listed on my paystubs but with really small amounts (like $10-30 per paycheck).

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AstroExplorer

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The 401(k) contribution of $15,000 would definitely explain a significant part of the discrepancy. That amount reduces your Box 1 wages (federal taxable income) but not your Boxes 3/5 (Social Security and Medicare wages), up to the annual FICA limit. For the imputed income items, you should be able to get a year-end summary from your payroll portal or HR department that totals all these amounts. While they might seem small per paycheck ($10-30), over a full year they can add up to hundreds or even a few thousand dollars of taxable income. Your employer should be able to provide a breakdown of all imputed income items if you request it.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - check your last paystub of the year and look for a "YTD" (year-to-date) summary. Compare those totals with what's on your W-2. In my experience, Box 1 on W-2 usually matches the "YTD Taxable Gross" on your final paystub, not your total compensation. Also, if you have access to your RSU account (like E*Trade, Morgan Stanley, etc.), pull the 1099-B for the year and look for any shares that were sold. Sometimes when RSUs vest, the broker automatically sells a portion to cover taxes, which might explain why you think you only received a certain amount.

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Amara Nwosu

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I checked my last paystub and you're right - the YTD Taxable Gross is actually pretty close to my W-2 Box 1! There's still about a $2k difference though. And yes, my company uses E*Trade for the RSUs, and looking at my account history, they did sell some shares right when they vested. Is that normal?

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That $2k difference between your YTD Taxable Gross and W-2 Box 1 could be from imputed income that was added after the last payroll run of the year, or potentially from adjustments related to your benefits. Yes, the automatic selling of shares when RSUs vest is absolutely normal - it's called "sell to cover" and it's how most companies handle tax withholding on RSUs. Since RSUs are considered income when they vest, you owe taxes immediately, regardless of whether you keep or sell the shares. Rather than asking you to pay these taxes out of pocket, your company automatically sells just enough shares to cover the required tax withholding (usually around 22-37% depending on your income level).

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Ava Johnson

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Has anyone ever successfully challenged their W-2 when it included unvested RSUs? My company seems to be reporting the full grant value upfront, and HR keeps insisting it's correct but everything I've read says that's wrong??

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AstroExplorer

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If your W-2 truly includes unvested RSUs as current income, that's definitely incorrect and should be challenged. RSUs should only be reported as income in the year they vest, not when they're granted. To verify this is actually happening, check your pay statements carefully. Sometimes what appears to be reporting of unvested RSUs is actually something else (like imputed income from benefits). If you've confirmed the error, request a corrected W-2 (Form W-2c) from your employer with documentation showing the unvested RSUs shouldn't be included. If they refuse, you can contact the IRS for help resolving the dispute.

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Jean Claude

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I had a very similar situation last year and it drove me crazy until I figured out what was happening! The key is to understand that there are multiple ways income gets reported and timing differences that can make things confusing. First, make sure you're comparing the right numbers. Your W-2 Box 1 should match your year-end paystub's "YTD Federal Taxable Wages" - not your gross pay. Pre-tax deductions like 401(k) contributions, health insurance premiums, and HSA contributions reduce Box 1 but are still part of your total compensation. For RSUs, you're absolutely right that unvested shares shouldn't be taxed. Only RSUs that actually vest during 2023 should appear as income. However, when they do vest, they're taxed at their fair market value on the vesting date, which might be different from the grant value if your stock price has changed. The imputed income items you mentioned (Imp GTL, Imp Legal, Imputed Ben) are benefits your company provides that the IRS considers taxable income even though you don't receive cash. These can add up to more than you'd expect over a full year. I'd recommend pulling your final 2023 paystub and your RSU vesting schedule to do a line-by-line comparison with your W-2. That should help you identify exactly where the discrepancy is coming from before reaching out to HR or a tax professional.

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StarStrider

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually dealing with something similar right now where my W-2 numbers don't match what I calculated from my paystubs. The point about comparing W-2 Box 1 to "YTD Federal Taxable Wages" rather than gross pay is something I hadn't considered - I was definitely looking at the wrong numbers. I have a question about the RSU vesting schedule comparison you mentioned. When I look at my RSU account, it shows vesting dates throughout the year, but some of the amounts seem to have been automatically sold right away. Should I be looking at the gross value that vested or the net amount I actually received after the automatic tax withholding sales? Also, do you know if there's typically a delay between when RSUs vest and when they show up on your paystub? I'm wondering if some December vesting events might have been included in my W-2 but not my last paystub of the year.

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