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Quarterly estimated taxes for first year of self-employment business - when to start paying?

I just started my own photography business back in March as a 1099 contractor with zero tax withholding. My spouse works in finance (not tax specific) so we have some general tax knowledge, but I'm realizing we might be in trouble with estimated tax payments. I originally thought I'd need to make my first quarterly estimated payment at the end of July for Q2 income, but now I'm seeing that estimated taxes are actually due on 4/15, 6/15, 9/15, and 1/15. I've already missed the April and June deadlines since I didn't know about them. Should I just wait until September 15th to make my first payment? Or am I going to get hit with penalties? Are there different rules for your first year of self-employment that might help me? This is doing pretty well so far - made about $34,500 since March but I'm worried about screwing up the tax situation since I've never been self-employed before.

Ethan Brown

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You're right about the quarterly due dates for estimated tax payments (4/15, 6/15, 9/15, and 1/15 of the following year). These apply to all self-employed individuals, even in your first year. The good news is the IRS does have a "safe harbor" provision that can help first-time business owners. You have a few options to avoid penalties: If you pay at least 90% of the tax you owe for the current year, or 100% of the tax you showed on your return for the previous year (whichever is smaller), you should avoid underpayment penalties. If your previous year's AGI was over $150,000, that threshold increases to 110% of last year's tax. For a first-year business, you can also use the "annualized income" method on Form 2210. This lets you make unequal payments based on when you actually earned the income during the year, which sounds like it would help in your situation. I'd recommend making your next payment by September 15th, and you may want to increase it to cover some of what you missed for the earlier quarters.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Does the safe harbor of paying 100% of last year's tax still apply if you had zero self-employment income last year? My spouse's W-2 job covered everything last year, but now I'm making decent money with my Etsy shop.

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Ethan Brown

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Yes, the safe harbor provision still applies even if you had zero self-employment income last year. As long as you pay 100% of what your total tax liability was last year (including your spouse's income if you filed jointly), you should be protected from underpayment penalties regardless of how much self-employment income you earn this year. For your Etsy shop, keep in mind you'll need to pay both income tax and self-employment tax (15.3% for Social Security and Medicare) on your profits. Since this is new income, it might be wise to set aside at least 25-30% of your profits for taxes.

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Don't forget about state estimated taxes too! Depending on your state, the rules and due dates might be different than federal. Some states follow the federal schedule but others have their own system.

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Crap, I completely forgot about state taxes! I'm in Pennsylvania - do you know if they follow the federal schedule or do they have their own thing?

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Pennsylvania follows the federal estimated tax payment schedule, so your state quarterly estimated taxes would also be due on 4/15, 6/15, 9/15, and 1/15. For Pennsylvania specifically, you'll need to pay quarterly if you expect to owe more than $246 in tax. The state tax rate is a flat 3.07%, which is much simpler to calculate than the federal brackets. PA also doesn't have a separate self-employment tax, but you'll still need to pay local taxes depending on which municipality you're in.

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Amara Chukwu

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One thing nobody mentioned yet is that you should open a separate business checking account ASAP if you haven't already! Makes tracking business income and expenses sooooo much easier when tax time comes. I didn't do this my first year and spent like 3 full days sorting through personal bank statements to figure out what was business vs personal. Nightmare!

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And don't forget to save all your receipts! You can use something like QuickBooks Self-Employed to scan and categorize them automatically. Saves so much time and helps you find deductions you might miss.

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Emma Anderson

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As someone who just went through this exact situation last year, I can offer some reassurance! You're not automatically doomed for missing those first two quarterly payments, especially since you literally didn't know about the business when the April deadline hit. The key thing is to make your September 15th payment and make it substantial enough to cover what you should have paid earlier. Since you started in March and have made $34,500 so far, you're looking at owing both regular income tax AND self-employment tax (that 15.3% Social Security/Medicare hit that nobody warns you about). Here's what saved me: I calculated what my total tax liability would be for the year, then made my September payment large enough to get me to that 90% threshold by year-end. The IRS is surprisingly reasonable about first-year businesses as long as you show good faith effort to catch up. Also, definitely start setting aside 25-30% of every payment you receive going forward. I use a separate savings account and transfer the tax money immediately when clients pay me. Trust me, you don't want to be scrambling to find tax money next April! Your photography business sounds like it's off to a great start - don't let the tax stress overshadow that success!

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This is such helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar boat - just started freelance writing in May and have been panicking about the tax situation. The 25-30% rule sounds reasonable, but I'm curious - do you calculate that percentage on gross income or after business expenses? Like if I made $1000 but had $200 in legitimate business expenses, am I setting aside 25% of $1000 or 25% of $800?

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