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Jamal Anderson

Self-employed and totally confused about estimated tax payments - help please!

Hi everyone, I just started my own graphic design business about 4 months ago after leaving my corporate job. I'm making decent money (around $4,500-5,200 per month) but I have NO IDEA how to handle these estimated tax payments I keep hearing about. I've been setting aside some money but honestly don't know when I'm supposed to pay, how much, or where to even send it. Do I need to be making quarterly payments? And what happens if I haven't made any payments yet? I'm worried I'll get hit with huge penalties. This is my first time being self-employed and the tax part is way more complicated than I expected. Any advice would be super appreciated!!

Mei Wong

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The estimated tax system can definitely be confusing when you're new to self-employment! Basically, when you're self-employed, you need to make quarterly estimated tax payments because taxes aren't being withheld from your paychecks like they were at your corporate job. The quarterly due dates are April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 (of the following year). These payments should cover both your income tax and self-employment tax (which is how you pay Social Security and Medicare taxes when self-employed). To figure out how much to pay, you'll need to estimate your annual income, deductible expenses, and calculate your tax liability. You can use Form 1040-ES to help with this calculation. The goal is to pay at least 90% of your current year's tax or 100% of last year's tax (110% if your income was over $150,000) to avoid penalties.

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Thanks for the info! So I'm already behind on payments since I started 4 months ago? Also, how do I actually make these payments? Is there a website or do I mail checks somewhere?

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Mei Wong

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Yes, you're likely behind on the schedule, but don't panic! If you just started 4 months ago, you would have missed some quarterly deadlines, but the penalties are calculated based on how much you underpaid and for how long, so they shouldn't be too severe if you start making payments now. For making payments, the easiest way is through the IRS Direct Pay system on irs.gov or the IRS2Go app. You can pay electronically with no fee. Alternatively, you can mail payment vouchers from Form 1040-ES with checks to the address listed in the form instructions, but electronic payment is faster and gives you immediate confirmation.

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Amara Eze

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Dylan Wright

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Sofia Torres

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Something that really helped me with estimated taxes was setting up a separate savings account specifically for taxes and automatically transferring 30% of every payment I receive into it. This was a game-changer because I always have the money ready when quarterly payments are due. I use a calendar reminder one week before each due date to calculate the actual amount and make the payment. Better to slightly overpay than deal with penalties!

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Is 30% enough though? I've heard some people say you should set aside up to 40% depending on your state. What state are you in? And do you find you usually have extra left over at the end of the year?

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Sofia Torres

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I'm in Tennessee which has no state income tax, so 30% works perfectly for me. You're right that if you're in a high-tax state like California or New York, you might want to bump that up to 35-40%. I typically do have some extra left over at the end of the year, which I use to either reinvest in my business or take as a little "bonus." Having that buffer is actually nice because it means I never stress about underpaying. I'd rather have that peace of mind and a small refund than cut it too close and owe penalties.

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Has anyone used TurboTax Self-Employed for quarterly estimates? Their ads keep popping up on my instagram and they claim it makes estimated taxes super simple, but its kinda expensive and I'm wondering if its actually worth it?

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Ava Rodriguez

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I used it last year and honestly found it disappointing for quarterly payments. It's decent for annual filing, but the quarterly tool was basic and didn't save me much time. Plus it didn't sync well with my bank accounts. I switched to QuickBooks Self-Employed which is much better for tracking throughout the year and calculating quarterly payments accurately.

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Thanks for the honest review! That's really helpful. Maybe I'll look into QuickBooks Self-Employed instead. I'm not doing anything super complicated tax-wise but just want something reliable that won't make me do all the math myself every quarter.

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Miguel Diaz

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Don't forget about the safe harbor rule for estimated taxes! If you pay 100% of last year's tax liability in equal quarterly installments (or 110% if your AGI was over $150,000), you won't face penalties even if you end up owing more when you file. This saved me when my income suddenly doubled mid-year and I couldn't accurately predict my total tax liability.

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That's really helpful to know! So if this is my first year being self-employed, would I use my tax liability from last year when I was a W-2 employee as the safe harbor amount?

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Miguel Diaz

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Exactly! Even though your situation has changed, you can use your total tax liability from last year's return (the total tax, not just what you owed at filing time) as your safe harbor amount. Divide that by 4 and pay that amount each quarter, and you'll be penalty-proof even if your self-employment income is significantly higher. Just remember that while this protects you from penalties, you'll still need to pay any additional tax you owe when you file your return. But at least you won't have those nasty underpayment penalties added on top!

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