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Zainab Yusuf

Need help with Form 8606 for my backdoor Roth IRA - FreeTaxUSA showing $6,000 basis?

I'm in the middle of doing my taxes for 2023 and I'm confused about the Form 8606 for my backdoor Roth IRA. I'm using FreeTaxUSA for the first time this year, and when I got to the part about the backdoor Roth IRA, the software is trying to import a $6,000 total basis when asking about my non-deductible contributions. Here's what happened: I maxed out my traditional IRA with $6,000 (non-deductible contribution) then converted it to a Roth shortly after. The account had no earnings between contribution and conversion. This is my first year doing the backdoor Roth method, so I don't have any previous basis to carry over. Is this $6,000 basis correct? I'm worried FreeTaxUSA is pulling data incorrectly or I'm missing something about how Form 8606 should be filled out for a backdoor Roth. Anyone dealt with this before and can explain what's going on? I don't want to mess up the reporting and create headaches with the IRS.

The $6,000 basis amount showing in FreeTaxUSA is actually correct! When doing a backdoor Roth IRA, the Form 8606 is used to track your non-deductible contributions to traditional IRAs, which become your "basis." Since you contributed $6,000 as a non-deductible contribution to your traditional IRA before converting it, that $6,000 is indeed your basis. The form is designed to help you avoid paying taxes twice on the same money. You've already paid income tax on that $6,000 (since it was non-deductible), so when you convert it to a Roth, you shouldn't pay tax on it again. Form 8606 documents this by tracking your basis.

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Yara Khoury

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Thanks for the explanation! So just to be sure I understand - when it asks for "basis," that's referring to the money I already paid taxes on, right? And if there had been earnings between my contribution and conversion, would only those earnings be taxable during the conversion?

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That's exactly right! The "basis" is the money you've already paid taxes on, which in your case is the full $6,000 non-deductible contribution. If there had been earnings between your contribution and conversion, yes, only those earnings would be taxable during the conversion. For example, if your $6,000 grew to $6,100 before conversion, you'd only pay taxes on that $100 of earnings when converting to the Roth IRA. That's why many people do the conversion quickly after the contribution to minimize any taxable earnings.

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Keisha Taylor

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Does it work with FreeTaxUSA specifically? I'm using that too and wondering if taxr.ai can help me verify I'm entering everything correctly before I submit. My situation is slightly different because I did a partial conversion.

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I'm a bit skeptical about using third-party tools with my tax documents. Does it store your financial info? And how does it handle more complex situations like if you have multiple IRAs with different contribution histories?

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Keisha Taylor

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I've been doing backdoor Roth conversions for about 5 years now and have some tips for Form 8606. FreeTaxUSA actually handles it pretty well, but there are a few tricky parts: 1. Make sure you're entering the non-deductible contribution on lines 1-3 of Form 8606 2. The conversion amount goes on lines 8-9 3. If you had zero earnings between contribution and conversion, lines 8 and 3 should match 4. Line 14 should be zero if you converted the entire amount Most important: keep records of all your Form 8606s from previous years! The IRS doesn't track your basis for you, and if you're audited, you'll need to prove your basis history.

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Zainab Yusuf

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This is super helpful, thanks! Just to clarify - when FreeTaxUSA shows that $6,000 basis, I should let it import that value rather than changing it, right? And do I need to report the conversion separately somewhere else too, or does Form 8606 handle all of it?

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Yes, let FreeTaxUSA import the $6,000 basis since that's correct - it represents your non-deductible contribution that you've already paid taxes on. You do need to report the conversion separately as well. You should have received a Form 1099-R from your IRA custodian showing the distribution (conversion) amount. FreeTaxUSA will ask for this 1099-R information in a different section. Form 8606 ties these two events together - your non-deductible contribution and the conversion - to calculate how much of the conversion is taxable (which should be $0 if you had no earnings before converting).

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Friendly warning from someone who messed this up last year: make absolutely sure you check that final Form 8606 before filing! FreeTaxUSA got my basis wrong because I had done partial conversions over multiple years. Double check that: - Line 2 shows any carryover basis from prior years (should be $0 for your first backdoor) - Line 14 should be $0 if you converted everything - Line 18 should match your conversion amount - Don't forget to include the 1099-R for the conversion!

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Emma Davis

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I'm confused about the 1099-R part. My broker only sent me a 5498 form showing my IRA contribution, but no 1099-R even though I did a backdoor Roth last year. Should I have received both forms? Could this mean my conversion wasn't processed correctly?

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You should have received both forms for a backdoor Roth conversion! Form 5498 shows your IRA contribution, but you also need a 1099-R for the distribution/conversion from your traditional IRA to the Roth IRA. If you didn't receive a 1099-R, contact your broker immediately - this could indicate the conversion wasn't properly processed or reported. The 1099-R is crucial because it reports the distribution amount to the IRS, and without it, your Form 8606 won't tie together correctly. Your broker should have issued it by January 31st for the prior tax year. Don't file without it!

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