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NeonNinja

Need help - Rolled over Roth Solo 401K to IRA but didn't file Form 5500-EZ for plan termination

So I'm in a bit of a panic here. Back in July 2022, I transferred my Roth Solo 401K into my Roth IRA because TD Ameritrade (where I had my accounts) was being acquired by Charles Schwab. Schwab told me they don't support Roth 401Ks, so I figured rolling it over was the smart move. The Roth 401K was worth about $135K, and I also had a traditional Solo 401K worth roughly the same amount, so total was under $300K. Here's my problem - I just found out about this Form 5500-EZ that apparently needs to be filed when terminating these kinds of retirement plans. Nobody at TD Ameritrade or Schwab ever mentioned this to me! I'm freaking out because I've read the penalties can be like $350 per day for not filing. Do I need to file this form now even though it's been almost 2 years? Should I include some kind of explanation letter and beg for penalty relief? Or is rolling over to an IRA different from terminating a plan and maybe I don't even need to worry about this form? I'm so confused and worried about potential penalties. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

You definitely should file the Form 5500-EZ. When you roll over a Solo 401k to an IRA, this is considered a plan termination which triggers the requirement to file the final Form 5500-EZ. The good news is that the IRS has programs specifically for situations like yours. Look into the IRS Late Filer Relief Programs - specifically the Delinquent Filer Voluntary Compliance Program (DFVCP). You'll want to file the missing form and include a statement explaining the situation. Be sure to note that this was an honest mistake and that no one informed you of this requirement when facilitating the rollover. Also worth noting - the form was only required if your plan assets exceeded $250k at any point during the previous year, but since you're filing for termination, you need to file regardless of asset value. The penalties can indeed be steep, but they're often reduced or waived for those who voluntarily come forward to correct the situation.

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Sean Murphy

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What happens if they just don't file it? Like would the IRS even know? I mean it's been two years already and nothing has happened right?

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Not filing when required is never a good strategy. While it might seem like "nothing has happened," the IRS has information reporting from both financial institutions and can match this data during examinations. The penalties continue to accrue until the situation is corrected. The better approach is to take advantage of the relief programs I mentioned. Most people who voluntarily disclose and correct filing oversights receive substantial penalty reductions or waivers, especially when the failure was unintentional and they show good faith by filing without being contacted by the IRS first.

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Zara Khan

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Does it handle state tax implications too? When I rolled over my 401k last year I got hit with some unexpected state tax issues that my CPA didn't warn me about.

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Coming back to eat my words. After struggling for nearly 3 weeks trying to get through to the IRS about my 5500-EZ situation (and posting that skeptical reply above), I caved and tried Claimyr. Got a call back with an actual IRS retirement plan specialist on the line within 35 minutes. The agent confirmed I needed to file the 5500-EZ for my terminated plan and walked me through exactly how to file it late with a reasonable cause statement. They even gave me their direct extension for follow-up questions! I was able to submit everything the same day instead of stressing for another month. Sometimes it's worth admitting when you're wrong - this service actually delivered exactly what it promised.

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Ethan Wilson

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One thing to remember about Form 5500-EZ - if your plan assets never exceeded $250,000 in the year of termination, you can use Form 5500-EZ for reporting the termination, but you could actually qualify for the "one-participant plan" exemption from filing for the years before termination. That might impact how you approach this.

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NeonNinja

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Thanks for mentioning this! Do you know if I need to include the value of BOTH my Roth and Traditional Solo 401k accounts when determining if I hit that $250k threshold? Since they were separate accounts but part of the same plan?

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Ethan Wilson

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Yes, you would combine the values of both the Roth and Traditional portions of your Solo 401k when determining if you hit the $250k threshold. Even though they're separate accounts, they're considered part of the same plan for reporting purposes. Based on the values you mentioned (around $135k each), your total would be approximately $270k, which would put you just over the filing threshold. However, the exact determination would be based on the highest combined balance during the relevant year, not just at the time of termination.

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Yuki Sato

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The 5500-EZ filing requirements are so confusing! I missed filing mine too and got hit with penalties. Does anyone know which tax software handles these forms properly? I use TurboTax for my regular taxes but they don't seem to support these specialized retirement plan forms.

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Carmen Flores

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None of the mainstream tax software handles 5500-EZ properly. I'm a bookkeeper and we use specialized software like Intuit Tax Online Pro or UltraTax for clients with these needs. For most individuals, you'll need to file it directly through the EFAST2 system on the Department of Labor website.

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Demi Hall

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I went through this exact same situation last year! The panic is real, but you're not alone in missing this filing requirement. Here's what I learned from my experience: First, yes you do need to file Form 5500-EZ for plan termination even though it's been 2 years. The IRS considers a rollover to an IRA as terminating the Solo 401k plan. Since your combined plan assets were around $270k, you definitely exceeded the $250k threshold that triggers the filing requirement. The good news is that the IRS has reasonable cause provisions for late filings, especially when you can demonstrate that the failure was due to circumstances beyond your control - like not being informed by your financial institutions about this requirement. When you file, include a detailed reasonable cause statement explaining exactly what happened: the TD Ameritrade acquisition, Schwab's inability to support Roth 401ks, and the fact that neither institution informed you of the 5500-EZ requirement. Document everything with dates and reference any correspondence you had with them. I also recommend checking if you qualify for the DOL's Delinquent Filer Voluntary Compliance Program (DFVCP), which often results in reduced penalties for good faith late filers. Don't wait any longer though - the penalties do continue to accrue, and voluntary compliance always looks better than being contacted by the IRS first.

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