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Andre Dubois

Need advice on reasonable cause for late filing S corp election - will IRS still charge penalties?

I'm in a bit of a sticky situation with my business. I've been operating as a sole prop but wanted to switch to an S corp for tax advantages. Unfortunately, I missed the deadline to file Form 2553 for the S corp election. After researching, I found that the IRS might accept a late filing if there's "reasonable cause" (had some major family health issues that consumed all my time). My question is: If the IRS accepts my reasonable cause explanation for the late S corp election, will they still hit me with late filing penalties when I submit the 1120S returns? I was planning to include a detailed letter explaining the circumstances with my late Form 2553 submission. Has anyone gone through this process? Did the IRS waive both the late election AND the associated late filing penalties for the 1120S? I'm trying to figure out if I should budget for potential penalties or if getting the reasonable cause accepted means I'm in the clear for everything. Any experiences or advice would be super helpful!

CyberSamurai

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The good news is that if the IRS accepts your reasonable cause for the late S corp election (Form 2553), they typically won't charge penalties for the late filing of the associated 1120S returns for the same period. The reasonable cause essentially "backdates" your S corp status. From my experience working with small business owners, you'll want to make sure your reasonable cause explanation is detailed and well-documented. Family health issues certainly can qualify, but be prepared to provide some form of evidence (medical records, hospital dates, etc.) if requested. Be specific about how these circumstances prevented you from meeting the deadline. When filing, I recommend submitting Form 2553 with your explanation letter first, waiting for approval, and then filing your 1120S returns. This creates a cleaner paper trail and reduces confusion.

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Thanks for the info. Would you recommend sending the Form 2553 by certified mail or some other method that confirms receipt? I've heard the IRS is notorious for "losing" paperwork, and I'm worried about making this situation worse.

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CyberSamurai

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I absolutely recommend sending it by certified mail with return receipt requested. This gives you proof of delivery that the IRS received your documents. Also keep copies of absolutely everything you send - your completed Form 2553, your reasonable cause explanation letter, any supporting documentation, and the certified mail receipt. Electronic scanning is great for this, but physical copies work too. These will be invaluable if there are any questions later.

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Jamal Carter

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Mei Liu

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How long did it take you to get a response from the taxr.ai system? I'm on a bit of a time crunch with my situation and wondering if this is something that could help me quickly or if I should just try to figure it out myself.

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I'm a bit skeptical about these AI tax tools. How accurate was their advice compared to what an actual tax professional would tell you? Was there anything they missed that you found out later was important?

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Jamal Carter

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AstroExplorer

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Amara Nwosu

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Don't forget to double-check your state filing requirements too! I had my federal S corp election accepted with reasonable cause, but my state (California) still hit me with penalties because they have separate requirements for accepting late S corp elections at the state level. Had to go through the whole process again with the state tax agency.

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Andre Dubois

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Oh wow, I didn't even think about state requirements! I'm in Maryland - does anyone know if they follow the federal determination or have their own process?

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Maryland generally follows the federal S corporation election, but you should still notify them of your federal election acceptance once you receive it. You'll need to file Maryland Form 510 (S Corporation Income Tax Return) once your federal S corp status is approved. The Maryland Comptroller's office is actually easier to reach than the IRS if you have questions - their business tax line is much less congested. Just make sure you check their deadlines, as they might differ slightly from federal ones.

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Dylan Cooper

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I'm in a similar situation but curious about the timeline - how long did it take for the IRS to process your reasonable cause request and accept the late S corp election? I've sent mine in about 6 weeks ago and haven't heard anything.

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CyberSamurai

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In my experience with clients, the IRS typically takes 60-90 days to process reasonable cause S corp elections. However, with current IRS backlogs, I've seen some take as long as 5-6 months. If you haven't received a response after 90 days, I'd recommend calling the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line (800-829-4933) to check on status. Be prepared with your EIN and details about when/where you sent the forms.

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Based on my experience helping clients through this exact situation, I can confirm that if the IRS accepts your reasonable cause for the late S corp election, they typically won't impose penalties for the corresponding late 1120S filings. The key is that your reasonable cause needs to cover the entire period of delay. A few practical tips from what I've seen work well: 1. Be very specific about dates in your explanation letter - when the health issues started, how they prevented you from handling business matters, and when you were able to resume normal activities 2. Include a timeline showing you filed as soon as reasonably possible after the circumstances resolved 3. Consider attaching a brief statement from a medical professional if the health issues were severe enough to warrant it One thing to budget for though - even if penalties are waived, you'll still owe any additional taxes that result from the S corp election. The reasonable cause covers penalties and interest on late filing, but not the underlying tax liability differences. Also worth noting that the IRS has been more lenient with reasonable cause determinations post-COVID, especially for family health emergencies. Your situation sounds like it has strong merit for approval.

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Caesar Grant

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This is really helpful advice! I'm wondering about the timeline piece you mentioned - if my health issues lasted several months but I didn't file the Form 2553 until a few weeks after I was feeling better, would that hurt my reasonable cause argument? I was honestly still catching up on all the business stuff that had piled up during that time. Also, when you mention "additional taxes that result from the S corp election," are you referring to things like payroll taxes that I might not have been paying as a sole prop? I want to make sure I'm prepared for all the potential costs beyond just the penalties.

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Felicity Bud

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I went through this exact situation last year with a late S corp election due to a family medical emergency. The IRS did accept my reasonable cause and waived both the late election penalties AND the associated 1120S filing penalties, so there's definitely hope for your situation. A few things that helped my case: - I included specific dates and documentation showing when the medical issues occurred and how they prevented me from handling business matters - I demonstrated that I filed as soon as reasonably possible after the situation stabilized - I attached a letter from the medical provider confirming the severity and timeline of the health crisis The whole process took about 4 months from submission to approval, which was nerve-wracking but worth the wait. One surprise cost I hadn't budgeted for was having to amend some previous tax returns to reflect the S corp status retroactively, so factor that into your planning. The medical emergency angle is definitely one of the stronger reasonable cause arguments the IRS recognizes, especially if you can show it genuinely prevented you from handling business affairs during the critical filing period. Good luck!

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Sarah Ali

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This is really encouraging to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! The 4-month timeline helps me set realistic expectations. I'm curious about the amended returns you mentioned - were those just to correct the entity classification, or did you have to recalculate actual tax liabilities? I'm trying to understand if I should budget for additional tax prep fees on top of everything else. Also, when you say you attached a letter from the medical provider, was that something detailed or just a brief confirmation of dates and severity? I want to make sure I include the right level of documentation without overdoing it.

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Emma Thompson

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@c318414db297 The amended returns were mainly for entity classification changes, but there were some tax liability differences too - mostly related to self-employment tax savings and how certain deductions were treated. I ended up paying about $800 extra in tax prep fees for the amendments, but the SE tax savings more than made up for it. For the medical provider letter, I kept it concise - just a one-page letter on their letterhead confirming the dates I was under their care, that the condition was serious enough to prevent me from handling business matters, and when I was cleared to resume normal activities. Nothing too detailed about the actual medical condition, just enough to establish the timeline and severity. The IRS seemed satisfied with that level of documentation. One tip: make sure the dates in your medical letter align perfectly with the dates you mention in your reasonable cause explanation. Any discrepancies could raise questions.

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Brian Downey

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I'm going through a similar situation right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! One thing I wanted to add based on my research - make sure you include Form 1120S for each tax year that would be affected by your S corp election in your submission packet. The IRS wants to see that you're prepared to fulfill all the filing obligations that come with S corp status, not just requesting the election. I learned this the hard way when my initial submission was delayed because they requested the actual returns along with the reasonable cause letter. Also, if your health issues prevented you from accessing your business records or communicating with professional advisors, mention that specifically in your explanation. The IRS seems to give more weight to reasonable cause arguments that show the circumstances genuinely prevented you from meeting your tax obligations, not just made it inconvenient. Has anyone had experience with including a personal statement from family members who witnessed the health crisis? I'm wondering if that would strengthen my case or if it's overkill.

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