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Jasmine Hancock

Need advice on handling S-Corp that was transferred to a living trust mid-year

I'm in a bit of a complicated situation with a client and could use some guidance from anyone who has experience with Trusts and S-Corps together. We converted the client's business to an S-Corp starting January 2024. Everything was going smoothly - we set up the bookkeeping, got all approvals, and were discussing plans for establishing a family management company. But here's where things got tricky. The client just informed me that they transferred the company to a living trust back in August 2024. I've never dealt with a trust owning an S-Corp before, and I'm honestly feeling a bit out of my depth here. I'm not even sure what questions I should be asking or what special considerations I need to be aware of for tax purposes. Are there specific reporting requirements I need to know about? Does this affect the S-Corp election? Any insight would be really appreciated, or if it's too complex, I'm open to referring this out to someone with more expertise in this area.

Cole Roush

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This is actually a potentially serious issue that needs immediate attention. S-Corps have very strict rules about who can be shareholders. A living trust can be an S-Corp shareholder, but ONLY if it qualifies as an "eligible shareholder" under IRS rules. The trust must be either a revocable grantor trust where the grantor is a US citizen/resident, a qualified subchapter S trust (QSST), or an electing small business trust (ESBT). If the trust doesn't qualify, your client may have inadvertently terminated their S-Corp election. You should immediately get a copy of the trust document and determine what type of trust it is. Then verify if it meets the eligibility requirements. If it doesn't, there may be relief provisions available if you act quickly, but there's typically only a short window to correct this. The taxation is also completely different depending on what type of trust it is. For a grantor trust, the income passes through to the grantor. For a QSST, to the beneficiary. For an ESBT, the trust itself pays taxes at the highest individual rate.

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Wow I didn't realize trusts could invalidate an S-Corp election. How soon would they need to fix this if the trust doesn't qualify? And if the S-Corp status was terminated, would that mean they're retroactively treated as a C-Corp from the transfer date?

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Cole Roush

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If the trust doesn't qualify and the S election is terminated, the termination is effective on the date the shares were transferred to the ineligible shareholder (August 2024 in this case). The IRS generally provides relief if you discover and correct the issue within a "reasonable period" - typically this means filing for inadvertent termination relief within 3-6 months of discovery. If relief isn't granted, then yes, the entity would be treated as a C-Corporation from the termination date forward. This would mean corporate taxation, potential double taxation issues, and significantly more complex tax filings. The business would need to file both an S-Corporation return (January through August) and a C-Corporation return (August through December) for the 2024 tax year.

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Anna Kerber

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A few important questions to ask your client right away: 1) Is this a revocable living trust or irrevocable? 2) Who are the trustees and beneficiaries? 3) Do they have a trust EIN or are they using the grantor's SSN? 4) Did the trust actually take title to the S-Corp shares? (Check if stock certificates were reissued) 5) Was this done with an attorney's guidance? The answers will help determine your next steps. If it's a simple revocable living trust with the same person as grantor/trustee/beneficiary, you might be fine. If it's more complex, you might need to make special elections. Also, check if Form 2553 (S-Corp election) needs updating with the IRS to reflect the new shareholder.

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Niko Ramsey

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Is there a deadline for updating the 2553 when ownership changes? My understanding was that you only file that once when making the initial S election.

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Anna Kerber

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You're right that Form 2553 is primarily used for the initial S election and doesn't generally need to be refiled when ownership changes. I should have been more specific - what needs to be updated is the information about the new shareholders. For a change in shareholders, you'd typically document this on the annual 1120-S Schedule K-1, which would show the trust as the new shareholder. However, if the trust isn't an eligible S corporation shareholder, you'd need to address that first with appropriate elections like a QSST or ESBT election.

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Don't panic yet! I've handled several S-Corps owned by trusts. Here's my checklist: 1. Get a complete copy of the trust document 2. Verify if it's a grantor trust (most living trusts are) 3. If grantor trust, confirm the grantor is a US citizen/resident 4. Check if ownership actually transferred (many clients say they did things their attorney hasn't actually completed yet) 5. If it's not a qualifying trust, file Form 2553 with a QSST or ESBT election 6. Document everything in case you need to request inadvertent termination relief Most living trusts are qualifying shareholders as grantor trusts. The biggest issue is often just documentation and making sure the proper tax ID is used on K-1s.

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Jabari-Jo

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This is super helpful! For QSST/ESBT elections, do those need to be made within a certain timeframe after the transfer?

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Thank you all so much for the great advice! I've reached out to the client to get a copy of the trust documents ASAP. Based on our initial conversation, I believe it's a revocable living trust with her as both grantor and trustee, which sounds like it might qualify as a grantor trust. I'll definitely be checking all the points on this checklist and probably will look into both taxr.ai and Claimyr since we're under some time pressure here. Really appreciate everyone sharing their expertise!

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Carmen Reyes

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Just wanted to add one more thing that helped me in a similar situation - make sure to document the exact date of the stock transfer to the trust. This becomes critical if you end up needing to file for inadvertent termination relief or if the IRS questions the timing of any elections. Also, even if it turns out to be a qualifying grantor trust (which sounds likely based on your description), you'll want to make sure the K-1s for 2024 are issued correctly. If the transfer happened in August, you might need to issue separate K-1s - one to the individual for January-August and one to the trust for August-December, depending on how the stock certificates were handled. One last tip: if this client has other business entities or is considering the family management company you mentioned, this trust structure could actually work in your favor for future estate planning. Worth discussing with their attorney once you get the current situation sorted out!

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