Need Explanation for Underpayment Penalty Waiver - What Works for Form 2210?
So I messed up big time with my taxes last year. I sold a bunch of stock and made quite a profit, but completely forgot about estimated taxes. My withholdings ended up about $34k short of what I needed under the "safe harbor" rule. I did file an extension back in April this year and paid everything I owed for last year, but now I need to finish my actual tax return before the October deadline. I'm using tax software and got to Form 2210 where there's this checkbox in Part II-A for "request for waiver for underpayment." The weird thing is, I checked that box but my tax software isn't asking me to provide any explanation for the waiver. Do I actually need to write an explanation for the IRS to consider my waiver request? And if so, what kind of explanation would even work in my situation? I genuinely didn't know about estimated taxes for investment income, but I'm not sure if "I didn't know the rule" is a valid excuse for the IRS. Anyone dealt with this before? I'm worried about getting hit with a huge penalty!
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Wesley Hallow
This is a common issue with investment income, so don't beat yourself up too much. While your tax software may allow you to skip providing the explanation, the IRS does generally expect some justification when you check that waiver box on Form 2210. The IRS typically grants waivers for "unusual circumstances" or if you had a reasonable cause for the underpayment. Simply not knowing about estimated tax requirements usually isn't considered sufficient by itself. However, if this was your first time dealing with significant investment income and you promptly paid when you realized the error, you might have a reasonable case. If your software doesn't provide a space for the explanation, you should attach a separate statement to your return explaining your situation. Mention that this was your first time dealing with substantial investment income, you were unaware of the estimated tax requirements, and you paid the full amount due as soon as you realized the error (with your extension).
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Justin Chang
•Does attaching a letter actually work though? I heard the IRS just throws those things out and nobody reads them. Also, wouldn't they just say ignorance of the law isn't an excuse?
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Wesley Hallow
•The IRS does review attached explanations, especially when they relate to specific forms where explanations are expected. While "ignorance of the law" isn't typically sufficient on its own, the IRS does consider first-time situations and your overall compliance history. The key is that you paid the full amount with your extension filing before the return was due - this shows good faith. For a first-time situation with investment income where you promptly corrected the issue, they're often more lenient. Make sure your statement is concise, factual, and directly references Form 2210 Part II-A waiver request.
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Grace Thomas
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Hunter Brighton
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Dylan Baskin
•Sounds helpful but I'm skeptical. Does it really know what the IRS will accept for underpayment penalty waivers? The IRS is pretty strict about those from what I've heard.
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Grace Thomas
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Hunter Brighton
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Lauren Wood
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Ellie Lopez
•How does this actually work? Sounds kinda sketchy that they can somehow get through when no one else can. Do they have some special connection to the IRS?
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Dylan Baskin
•This sounds like complete BS. No way some random service can magically get through the IRS phone system when millions of people can't. Even if it did work, would an IRS agent even have the authority to waive penalties over the phone? I doubt it.
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Lauren Wood
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Dylan Baskin
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Chad Winthrope
In my experience, you definitely want to include an explanation even if the software lets you skip it. Last year I had a similar situation (unexpected inheritance that threw off my tax situation), and my software also let me check the box without explanation. I ended up writing a simple one-page letter explaining that it was an unusual one-time situation I hadn't encountered before, attached it to my return labeled "Form 2210 Part II-A Waiver Explanation" and the IRS accepted it without issue. Just be honest and straightforward - if this truly was your first time dealing with investment income that large, say so. Mention you paid everything with your extension. Keep it under a page if possible.
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Paige Cantoni
•Would it be better to mail this explanation letter or can I still e-file? My software doesn't seem to have a way to attach documents with e-filing.
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Chad Winthrope
•You can usually still e-file. Most tax software has an option to include PDF attachments with your e-filed return. Look for something like "attach documents" or "file attachments" in your software menu. If your software doesn't support this, you might need to mail the return instead. Some people choose to e-file the return and then mail the explanation letter separately with a cover sheet that includes your name, SSN, tax year, and clearly states it's a Form 2210 waiver explanation to supplement your already-filed return. Include a copy of your Form 2210 as well so they can match it up.
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Kylo Ren
Has anyone tried just not checking the waiver box? I underpaid last year too (about 20k short) because of unexpected consulting income, and I just calculated and paid the penalty. It was like $700 on a $20k underpayment. Seems easier than trying to get a waiver approved.
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Nina Fitzgerald
•That might be the most practical approach! I did the same when I had a big bonus one year. The penalty isn't actually that bad compared to the hassle of trying to get a waiver. It's basically just interest on what you should have paid earlier.
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Natasha Orlova
I went through almost the exact same situation two years ago with stock sales! Here's what worked for me: I did include a written explanation even though my software didn't require it. I kept it simple and focused on three key points: (1) this was my first time dealing with significant investment income, (2) I wasn't aware of the estimated tax requirements for capital gains, and (3) I paid the full amount owed when I filed my extension before the deadline. The IRS accepted my waiver request. I think the key was showing that I acted in good faith by paying everything as soon as I realized the issue during tax prep. Don't just say "I didn't know" - emphasize that this was an unusual circumstance for you and that you corrected it promptly. If your software won't let you attach the explanation, you can either mail your return instead of e-filing, or e-file and then mail a separate letter referencing your return. I'd definitely recommend trying for the waiver since your underpayment sounds substantial and the penalty could be significant.
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Amara Nnamani
•This is really helpful advice! I'm in almost the exact same boat - first time with significant investment income and completely blindsided by the estimated tax requirements. Your three-point approach makes a lot of sense. Did you have to format the explanation letter in any specific way, or was it just a regular business letter format? Also, do you remember roughly how long it took to hear back about the waiver decision? I'm getting anxious about the whole process since the penalty could be pretty hefty on my $34k shortfall.
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