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Miguel Ortiz

Missing W-2 from previous employer - should I file with what I have and contact the IRS if needed?

So I'm in a bit of a pickle with my taxes this year. I worked for two different companies in 2024 - my current job that I love and this other place I worked for about 4 months at the beginning of the year. During my recent apartment move, I somehow lost the W-2 from that first job. I've called their HR department like 5 times but they're being totally useless about sending me a replacement W-2. I'm getting really frustrated because the tax deadline is approaching fast. I'm thinking I might just go ahead and file with the W-2 I have from my current employer. If the old company finally gets their act together and sends me another copy, great. But at this point, I just want to make sure I file on time. Would it be a bad idea to just file with what I have now and maybe deal with the IRS later if needed? I'm pretty sure I remember roughly what I made at that job (around $11,500 before taxes), but I don't know the exact withholding amounts.

Zainab Omar

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Don't file an incomplete return! If you can't get your W-2 from your former employer, you have other options that are much better than filing incomplete information. First, you can request a wage and income transcript directly from the IRS, which will show all information reported to the IRS, including your missing W-2. You can get this online through the IRS website or by submitting Form 4506-T. The transcript will have all the information you need from that missing W-2. Alternatively, you can file Form 4852 (Substitute for Form W-2) with your tax return. This form allows you to estimate your wages and withholding as accurately as possible. You'll need to explain that you tried to get your W-2 but your employer wouldn't provide a replacement.

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Connor Murphy

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Is there a penalty for filing the substitute form instead of the actual W-2? And how long does it usually take to get a wage transcript from the IRS? The filing deadline is coming up really soon and I'm worried I won't have time for all this.

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Zainab Omar

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There's no penalty for using Form 4852 when you genuinely cannot obtain your W-2 - that's exactly what the form is designed for. As long as you make a good faith effort to report accurate information, you're fulfilling your obligation. For wage and income transcripts, if you can create an online account at IRS.gov, you can access them immediately. If you request by mail using Form 4506-T, it typically takes 5-10 business days once the IRS receives your request. If you're concerned about the deadline, you can also file for an automatic extension using Form 4868, which gives you until October 15th to file your actual return.

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Yara Sayegh

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NebulaNova

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NebulaNova

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Paolo Conti

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Amina Diallo

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How does this actually work? Do they have some special connection to the IRS or something? I've tried calling the IRS before and it's literally impossible to get through.

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Paolo Conti

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Oliver Schulz

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Another option nobody mentioned - you can check your last paystub from that job if you still have it. It'll have your year-to-date info which is basically what's on your W-2. Only difference is the paystub won't have your employer's EIN, but you can find that online pretty easy.

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Miguel Ortiz

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I wish I still had my last paystub but I don't. Clearly I need to get better at keeping important documents! Do you know if there's any way to get the EIN besides the W-2 itself? I know the company name but not much else.

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Oliver Schulz

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You can find a company's EIN by googling the company name plus "EIN" - many companies have their EIN listed on their website's investor relations or about pages. If that doesn't work, sometimes you can find it on old business correspondence like offer letters or benefits information. If all else fails, you can call the IRS business number (not the regular taxpayer line) and they can sometimes provide an employer's EIN if you explain your situation. Just be prepared to verify your identity and explain that you're a former employee needing the information for tax purposes.

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I'm surprised nobody mentioned this but if you file late without an extension, you're looking at penalties if you owe money. Like 5% of unpaid taxes for every month you're late, up to 25%. If you're getting a refund there's no penalty for filing late BUT you only have 3 years to claim your refund.

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But in this case wouldn't it be better to file for an extension first, then sort out the W-2 situation? That way there's no late filing penalty while they're trying to get the missing information.

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For the future, I learned my lesson and now I take pics of all my important tax docs with my phone as soon as I get them. Store them in a secure folder and you'll never lose them again, even if you move or misplace the paper copies.

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Emma Wilson

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This is good advice! There are also secure document apps specifically for this purpose that encrypt your tax documents. I started using one after having a similar issue a few years back.

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