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Summer Green

Filing taxes with a combination of pay stubs and W-2's when one employer never sent a W-2?

So I'm in a frustrating situation with my 2024 tax filing. I worked for 3 different companies last year and I'm ready to file but one of my employers still hasn't sent me my W-2 form. I already filed for an extension back in April because of this issue. I called the company (a restaurant where I was a server for about 5 months) multiple times and finally got through to someone in payroll. They basically said "we'll get to it when we get to it" and didn't give me any timeline. I have all my pay stubs from them showing how much I earned and what was withheld for taxes. Can I just use my final pay stub from this job instead of waiting forever for a W-2 that might never come? The other two employers sent their W-2s on time and I have those ready to go. I'm worried about making a mistake and getting audited if I just use the pay stub info. Has anyone dealt with this before? I really need my refund and don't want to wait any longer just because one employer is being difficult about sending my W-2.

Gael Robinson

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You actually have a couple options here. First, you can contact the IRS about this issue. Employers were required to provide W-2s by January 31, so your former employer is definitely late. Call the IRS at 800-829-1040 with the employer's name, address, phone number, and your personal info (including dates worked and estimate of earnings/withholdings). The IRS will contact the employer and request they issue your W-2. They'll also send you Form 4852 (Substitute for Form W-2), which you can use if you don't receive your actual W-2 in time. This form lets you estimate your wages and withholding based on your pay stubs. Your final pay stub of the year is actually perfect for filling out Form 4852 since it usually shows year-to-date totals. Make sure you're using the FINAL stub that shows cumulative totals for the entire employment period. Just remember that filing with a substitute W-2 might delay your refund a bit as the IRS may take extra time to verify the information.

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Summer Green

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Thanks for the info! I didn't realize there was an actual form for this situation. Do I need to wait for the IRS to send me Form 4852 after I call them, or can I just download it and fill it out myself? Also, will there be any issues since I already filed for an extension? My extension is good until October but I'd really like to get this done sooner.

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Gael Robinson

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You can download Form 4852 directly from the IRS website and fill it out yourself. You don't need to wait for them to send it to you. It's actually good practice to call the IRS first before submitting the form though, as they may be able to help get your actual W-2 from the employer. Filing an extension was the right move and won't cause any issues. The extension gives you until October 15 to file, but you can submit your return anytime before then. Just make sure you fill out Form 4852 carefully with your best estimates from your pay stubs to avoid discrepancies.

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Manny Lark

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Wait, how does this actually work? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible to get through. Is this some kind of priority line or something?

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Rita Jacobs

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This sounds like a scam. There's no way to "skip the line" with the IRS. They're a government agency. I've had to deal with missing W-2s before and yeah it sucks but paying some third party isn't going to magically give you access to IRS agents.

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Rita Jacobs

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Khalid Howes

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Just want to add another option - check your IRS online account if you have one. Sometimes your W-2 info is already there in the system even if you never received the physical form. Employers submit this info directly to the IRS, so you might find it in your wage and income transcript. I had a similar issue and found that even though my employer never sent me my W-2, the information was already in the IRS system. I just printed the transcript and used that information to file my taxes. Saved me a lot of hassle with trying to track down the employer or filling out substitute forms.

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Summer Green

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That's a great suggestion! I hadn't even thought of checking my IRS account. Do you know how quickly that information typically shows up there? My missing W-2 would be for 2024 taxes, so I'm wondering if it would even be in the system yet if the employer hasn't sent it to me.

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Khalid Howes

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For current year (2024) tax information, there can be a significant delay before it appears in your IRS account. Employers are required to submit W-2 data to the Social Security Administration by January 31st, but it can take until July or even later before that information makes it to the IRS systems and becomes visible in your online account. Since you're trying to file now rather than waiting several more months, the Form 4852 route with your pay stubs is probably your best option. The online account is more helpful for prior years or if you're willing to wait longer. But it's always worth checking just in case your information is already there!

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Ben Cooper

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Has anyone used both a real W2 and a Form 4852 substitute W2 on the same tax return before? My tax software (TurboTax) is getting confused when I try to enter both. It keeps saying I have duplicate income sources.

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Naila Gordon

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Yes, I had to do this last year! In TurboTax, you need to enter them as completely separate employers even if they're technically the same company. For the Form 4852 entry, add something to distinguish it in the employer name field - I added "(Form 4852)" after the employer name. This helped TurboTax treat them as separate income sources. Just make sure the EIN (Employer Identification Number) is exactly the same on both entries if they're from the same employer. The IRS computers match by EIN, so that needs to be accurate.

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