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Dylan Cooper

Left 0 in stock tax form boxes (TY21 Sch D AMT ln 7) - what happens if I owe the IRS money?

I've been doing taxes through TurboTax by myself for like 5 years now without any issues. But this year, right as I was about to finish up, I got asked to review something from my income that I apparently missed. It was related to my Vanguard account (I'm super casual with stocks, just do a little here and there) and for some reason this info wasn't imported automatically like everything else was. So there I am, ready to be DONE with my taxes, and suddenly TurboTax is like "Hey we need this super specific info from your 2023 taxes and how it compares to your 2024 taxes on this obscure stock form, but we're not telling you how to find it lol good luck!" I spent like 2 hours searching for answers, checked old tax forms, even tried calling Vanguard, and finally just gave up and put 0 in the box. It was for TY21 Sch D AMT ln 7. Then it asked for another similar box value and I put 0 there too. Since I barely do anything with stocks (maybe like $500-600 worth of trades a year), I don't think these values were significant. My refund of around $4k didn't change much after I entered the zeros. I've already filed, but now I'm worried. Can the IRS fix small errors like this without me needing to amend? I REALLY don't want to amend for this stupid thing. If the IRS looks at it, will they notice the random zeros and just fix it themselves? So my questions: If you put 0 on TY21 Sch D AMT ln 7 and another box because you don't know the answer, will it be: a) no big deal, b) something requiring an amended return, or c) something that makes me owe the IRS money? And if I do end up owing, do they just email or mail you a notice with payment instructions? Can I just pay online? I've never owed before but I'd be fine paying a bit as long as I don't have to deal with physical mail (the worst).

Sofia Perez

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The good news is that you're probably okay! When you enter zeros for items like TY21 Sch D AMT ln 7 (Alternative Minimum Tax calculation for Schedule D), you're essentially telling the IRS you had no carryover AMT adjustment from the previous year. For most casual investors with small trading volumes like you described, these AMT adjustments are often zero or very small anyway. The IRS has a threshold for errors they consider significant enough to pursue, and minor issues with AMT calculations for small investors typically fall below that threshold. If the IRS does determine there's a discrepancy, they'll send you a notice (usually CP2000) proposing an adjustment to your tax return. You won't need to amend - they'll calculate what they believe you owe based on their records, and you can either agree and pay online through their payment portal, or dispute it if you think they're wrong. For small amounts, interest and penalties are usually minimal if you pay promptly after receiving notice. The IRS offers multiple online payment options including direct debit, credit card, or their payment plan application. Don't stress too much - the IRS processes millions of returns with small errors, and they have systems in place to handle these situations without major headaches for either side.

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Thanks for this info! Do you know approximately how long it takes for the IRS to send those CP2000 notices if they do find an error? Are we talking weeks or months here? And what happens if I moved since filing?

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Sofia Perez

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The IRS typically sends CP2000 notices 6-12 months after you file, so don't expect anything right away. They need time to match your reported information against what they received from financial institutions. If you've moved since filing, make sure you file Form 8822 (Change of Address) with the IRS so any notices reach you. The IRS mail forwarding is notoriously unreliable, and missing a notice can lead to additional issues like escalated collection actions if they think you're ignoring them.

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I was in a similar situation last year with some Schwab investments. Those AMT adjustments are confusing as hell! After spending hours trying to figure it out, I found this awesome service that saved me - https://taxr.ai actually explains those complicated stock forms in plain English. They analyzed my previous returns and found the values I needed for my Schedule D AMT fields. Turns out I had a small capital loss carryover that affected those boxes, but TurboTax didn't import it correctly. The tool showed me exactly where to find the missing values from my previous return and how they should be entered. I was about to do what you did and just put zeros, but this saved me from potentially underreporting. The service also explained when zeros are actually the correct answer vs. when they might trigger a review.

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Ava Johnson

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How exactly does this work? Do you have to upload your old returns to their site? I'm a bit paranoid about sharing my tax documents with random websites.

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Miguel Diaz

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Does it actually tell you what values to put in specific boxes like that TY21 Sch D AMT line? I've been putting random numbers for years and never had an issue but maybe I've just been lucky lol.

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You upload your previous year's return PDF and it scans for the relevant information. All uploads are encrypted and they delete them after processing. I was concerned about privacy too but they have pretty solid security protocols. Yes, it specifically tells you what values to put in boxes like TY21 Sch D AMT ln 7. It even explains why that number matters and how it's calculated. You might have been lucky so far with random numbers, but the IRS's matching systems get more sophisticated each year. Better to be accurate if possible!

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Miguel Diaz

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Zainab Ahmed

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Dylan Cooper

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Wait, there's a service that waits on hold with the IRS for you?? How does that even work? I tried calling the IRS last year and hung up after 90 minutes of waiting.

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Connor Byrne

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Yara Abboud

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I'm a bit late to this discussion but felt like I should share my experience. I've been dealing with stock investments for years and those AMT adjustments are confusing even for people who do understand stocks! The TY21 Sch D AMT ln 7 is referring to the Alternative Minimum Tax adjustment for capital gains/losses from a previous tax year that carries over. For most small investors, this is legitimately zero, so you might have accidentally put in the correct number anyway. The key thing to understand is that the IRS computer systems automatically match the 1099-B forms from your brokerage with what you report. If there's a significant discrepancy, you'll get a letter. But they're looking primarily at the current year transactions, not these carryover adjustments from previous years. In my experience, unless you're dealing with tens of thousands in stock transactions annually, these AMT adjustments rarely make a meaningful difference in your tax liability. The IRS focuses their enforcement resources on larger discrepancies.

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PixelPioneer

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So does this apply to crypto transactions too? I have a similar situation where I couldn't figure out some carryover basis amounts from previous years.

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Yara Abboud

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Crypto is actually handled differently in some ways. The IRS treats cryptocurrency as property rather than securities, so while you still report gains and losses, the AMT adjustments work differently. For crypto, accurate basis reporting is even more important because the IRS has been focusing enforcement in this area. If you can't determine your exact basis from previous years, you should try to make a good faith estimate based on transaction records. The Schedule D AMT carryovers would only apply if you had specific AMT adjustments in previous years related to your crypto trades.

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Has anyone else noticed that tax software keeps getting more expensive but somehow WORSE at handling common situations? I paid TurboTax $120 this year (up from $89 last year) and they still couldn't properly import my stock information from the same broker I've used for 5 years!

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Paolo Rizzo

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Try FreeTaxUSA next year. I switched from TurboTax two years ago and never looked back. Only $15 for state filing and federal is completely free. They handled all my stock transactions perfectly, including those weird AMT adjustments.

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