Large capital gains in stock market - need to pay quarterly taxes now to avoid penalties?
So I just made a pretty big killing in the stock market this year (finally something went right in my investments lol) but now I'm worried about the tax implications. My regular job pays around $135k annually and I just sold some stocks with a capital gain of about $68k. I'm concerned that I might get hit with penalties if I don't make some kind of tax payment before the end of the year. Do I need to make quarterly estimated tax payments to the IRS because of this windfall? And if so, how exactly do I calculate what I owe and go about paying it? I've never had to do this before - always just filed once a year. For reference: Income: $135k from my day job - Standard deduction + Capital gain: $68k from stock sales Any advice would be super appreciated! Don't want to mess this up and end up owing even more to Uncle Sam.
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Elin Robinson
Yes, you should definitely consider making an estimated tax payment to avoid potential penalties. The IRS generally expects you to pay taxes as you earn income throughout the year. When you have a significant capital gain like yours, it can throw off your regular withholding. The safe harbor rule is your friend here. You'll avoid penalties if you pay at least 90% of your current year tax or 100% of your prior year tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000). Since your income last year was presumably lower without this capital gain, paying 110% of last year's tax through withholding and estimated payments is probably your simplest option. To make an estimated payment, you can use the IRS Direct Pay system online or Form 1040-ES. Just go to the IRS website, select "make a payment," and follow the instructions. Make sure to specify it's for the current tax year.
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Ivanna St. Pierre
•Thanks for the quick response! So if I'm understanding right, I could potentially just pay 110% of what I owed last year and be in the clear? My AGI last year was around $130k and I paid about $24k in federal taxes. Also, does it matter which quarter I make this payment in? Since I just realized these gains last month, is it ok to make one lump sum payment now?
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Elin Robinson
•Yes, you've got it right - paying 110% of last year's tax through a combination of your withholding and estimated payments would satisfy the safe harbor. So if you paid $24k last year, ensuring you've paid at least $26,400 total for this year would protect you from penalties. Regarding timing, the IRS does prefer quarterly payments that align with when you earned the income. Since you realized the gains recently, you should make the payment for the quarter when the gains occurred. There might be a small penalty for not spreading the payments, but it's typically much less severe than making no payment at all.
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Atticus Domingo
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Atticus Domingo
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Morita Montoya
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Kingston Bellamy
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Joy Olmedo
•How does that even work? I thought the IRS phone system was just permanently busy - like they put you on hold forever no matter what. Are you saying this service somehow jumps the queue?
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Isaiah Cross
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Kingston Bellamy
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Isaiah Cross
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Kiara Greene
Don't forget about state estimated taxes too! Depending on your state, you might need to make estimated payments to them as well. I got hit with a nasty penalty in California because I remembered the federal payment but completely spaced on the state one.
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Ivanna St. Pierre
•Oh man, I didn't even think about state taxes. I'm in New York, which I'm guessing has similar rules to California. Do you know if the same safe harbor rules apply for state taxes? And do you make those payments through the state tax website?
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Kiara Greene
•New York does have similar rules to California. They generally follow the same safe harbor rules (paying 100% or 110% of last year's tax depending on income). Yes, you'd make the payment through the NY state tax website. They have their own estimated payment system separate from the federal one. Just search for "NY estimated tax payment" and it should take you right to it. Don't make the mistake I did - the state penalties can be just as annoying as the federal ones!
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Evelyn Kelly
One thing I learned the hard way - if most of your income is from a regular job with withholding, you can also just increase your withholding for the rest of the year instead of making separate estimated payments. Just update your W-4 with your employer to take out extra money from your remaining paychecks. The IRS treats withholding as if it occurred evenly throughout the year, even if you increase it late in the year. This can sometimes help avoid the penalties for quarterly underpayment since estimated payments are tied to specific quarters.
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Paloma Clark
•Isn't there a limit to how much additional withholding you can request? I tried to do this once and my payroll department said they couldn't withhold more than a certain percentage of my check.
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Oliver Brown
•That's a really smart strategy I hadn't considered! So if I increase my withholding now for the remaining months of the year, the IRS treats it as if I was withholding that extra amount all year long? That could definitely be easier than figuring out the quarterly payment system. @Paloma Clark - I m'curious about this too. My HR department is pretty flexible but I wonder if there are legal limits on how much they can withhold from each paycheck.
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TommyKapitz
As someone who's been through this exact situation, I'd recommend acting quickly since we're getting close to the end of the year. With your $68k capital gain on top of your $135k salary, you're definitely in territory where estimated payments make sense. Here's what I'd suggest as your immediate action plan: 1. Calculate 110% of last year's federal tax (since your AGI will be over $150k this year) 2. Check how much has already been withheld from your paychecks this year 3. Pay the difference as an estimated payment for Q4 The good news is that even though you realized the gains recently, making one payment now for the current quarter should protect you from penalties as long as you meet the safe harbor rules. Also, don't forget to check if your state has similar estimated payment requirements - many do, and the penalties can add up if you miss those too. You can make the federal payment directly through the IRS website using their Direct Pay system. Just make sure to specify it's for the current tax year and the correct quarter.
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Vanessa Figueroa
•This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar boat - just had some unexpected gains from crypto this year and was panicking about what to do. The step-by-step breakdown makes it so much clearer than all the IRS publications I was trying to read through. One quick question - when you say "specify it's for the current tax year and the correct quarter," does the IRS system automatically know which quarter based on when you make the payment? Or do you have to manually select Q4 when making the payment online? Also wondering if anyone knows - if I end up overpaying through estimated payments, does that just become a refund when I file my return next year?
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