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Dmitri Volkov

Today I learned that quarterly tax payments for the third quarter are due in September

This is my first time dealing with quarterly estimated tax payments, and I'm feeling kinda lost. I never had to worry about this before until a few months ago when I unexpectedly sold some Tesla shares I'd been holding onto for years and made a decent profit. I just found out TODAY (seriously, like 2 hours ago) that I'm supposed to make a payment for the third quarter soon! Nobody told me about this timeline, and I'm freaking out a little because I don't want to get hit with penalties. I made the stock sale back in July, made some money from it (nothing life-changing but enough that I need to pay attention to the tax situation), and had no idea I needed to make quarterly payments to the IRS. I thought I could just handle everything when I file next April. Can someone explain how these quarterly payments work? Am I already late? How do I even calculate what I owe? Feeling totally overwhelmed right now.

Don't worry too much - you're not late yet! The third quarter estimated tax payment is due September 15th. Since you just had this income event in July, you're only responsible for making estimated payments from that point forward. Here's how quarterly estimated taxes work: They're basically advance payments on taxes you expect to owe for income that doesn't have withholding (like stock sales, self-employment, etc.). The IRS wants their money throughout the year rather than all at tax time. The quarters aren't equal - they follow this schedule: Q1 (Jan-Mar) due April 15, Q2 (Apr-May) due June 15, Q3 (Jun-Aug) due Sept 15, and Q4 (Sep-Dec) due Jan 15 of next year. To calculate what you owe, you'll need to estimate your total tax liability for the year and make payments to cover either 90% of that or 100% of last year's tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000). You can use Form 1040-ES to help with the calculations.

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Thank you so much for the clear explanation! So I still have a few days to figure this out before September 15th. That's a relief. One question - when you say I need to cover either 90% of my liability or 100% of last year's tax... how do I know which one to pick? I made about $24,000 more this year because of the stock sale than I did last year.

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You should choose whichever method results in the lower payment requirement. Since you made significantly more this year, using 100% of last year's tax will likely be the easier and lower option. This is a perfectly legitimate strategy many taxpayers use when their income increases. The 90% current year calculation would require you to project your total income, deductions, and credits for the entire year, which can be complicated if you don't know exactly what your situation will look like by December 31st. Using last year's tax as your safe harbor is simpler and protects you from underpayment penalties.

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I'm a bit skeptical about these tax tools. Does it actually save you money compared to just paying the full amount you think you'll owe? And how does it handle state estimated payments, which are sometimes on different schedules than federal?

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That sounds like a scam. Why would I pay someone else to call the IRS for me? And how do I know they're not recording my tax information or something sketchy?

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Quick tip for the OP: If you use tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block throughout the year (not just at tax time), they have estimated tax calculators built in that can help you figure out your payments. You can enter your stock sale info and they'll tell you how much to pay each quarter. Also, don't forget state estimated taxes if your state has income tax! Those are often due on the same dates as federal but not always.

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Thanks for the tip! I do use H&R Block usually, but I never thought about using it mid-year. Do I need to buy the current tax year version now or can I use last year's until the new version comes out?

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You'll need the current year version, but you don't have to pay for it yet. H&R Block and most other tax software companies let you create an account and start entering information for free. You only pay when you actually file. So you can use their calculators and worksheets now to estimate your quarterly payments without paying for the full software. Just make sure you're using the 2025 version (for taxes you'll file in 2026), not the 2024 version that was for filing this past April.

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Does anybody know if there's like a minimum amount you need to make before you have to do these quarterly payments? I sold some crypto and made like $2,200 profit but not sure if I need to worry about this quarterly stuff.

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Yes, there is a threshold. Generally, you need to make quarterly estimated tax payments if you expect to owe at least $1,000 in tax for the year after subtracting withholdings and credits, AND your withholding and credits will cover less than 90% of your current year tax or 100% of your prior year tax. For $2,200 in crypto gains, it depends on your overall tax situation. If you have a regular job with withholding that covers most of your tax liability, you might not need to make estimated payments for this relatively small amount.

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