Is it true that the US will tax me on foreign investment income even if I move to a tax-free country as a US citizen?
I'm planning to relocate to the Cayman Islands next year since my tech company is letting me work from anywhere permanently. The Caymans don't have income tax which sounds amazing, but someone at work told me that as a US citizen, Uncle Sam will still come after my money no matter where I live?? Is this actually true? Specifically, I have about $185,000 in various investments (mostly index funds and some crypto) that generate around $12,000 annually in dividends and capital gains. If I'm living in the Caymans, would I still need to file US taxes and pay on this investment income even though I'm not physically in the US anymore? This seems really unfair if true. Has anyone done this move before or know the rules around this?
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Miguel Diaz
Yes, this is absolutely true. The US tax system is based on citizenship, not residence. This means as a US citizen, you're required to file a tax return and potentially pay taxes regardless of where you physically live in the world. For your investment income, you would definitely still need to report those dividends and capital gains on your US tax return. The fact that you'd be living in a tax-free country doesn't exempt you from US tax obligations.
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Ava Rodriguez
•Thanks for confirming, though that's pretty disappointing. Is there any way around this? I've heard some people mention renouncing citizenship, but that seems extreme just to avoid taxes. Are there any tax treaties with Cayman Islands that might help?
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Miguel Diaz
•Renouncing citizenship is indeed an extreme step with significant consequences beyond just taxes - it's permanent and comes with an exit tax if your net worth exceeds certain thresholds. There isn't a tax treaty between the US and Cayman Islands that would help in your situation. However, you may qualify for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) which allows you to exclude up to about $120,000 of foreign earned income from US taxation in 2025. Unfortunately, this doesn't apply to investment income like your dividends and capital gains - those remain fully taxable by the US.
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Zainab Ahmed
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Connor Gallagher
•Does this work with rental income too? I'm moving to Portugal next year but keeping my house in Denver to rent out, and I'm totally confused about how to handle the taxes on that income while living abroad.
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AstroAlpha
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Amina Bah
One thing nobody's mentioned yet is the FBAR requirement (FinCEN Form 114). If your foreign bank accounts exceed $10,000 in aggregate at any point during the calendar year, you MUST report them. Penalties for not filing are insane - can be $10k+ PER VIOLATION even for accidental mistakes. Also look into FATCA requirements with Form 8938 which is different from FBAR but also mandatory. Living abroad as a US citizen is a paperwork nightmare tbh.
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Oliver Becker
•Do retirement accounts count toward the $10k FBAR threshold? I have a pension from when I worked in Australia that's worth about $22k but I've never reported it because I thought retirement accounts were exempt...am I in trouble??
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Amina Bah
•Yes, retirement accounts absolutely count toward the FBAR threshold! Foreign pensions, investment accounts, bank accounts - basically any financial account you have signature authority over counts toward that $10k aggregate limit. You should file the delinquent FBARs as soon as possible. The IRS does have procedures for people who didn't know they needed to file. Generally, if you've reported all income from those accounts on your tax returns (even if you didn't file the FBAR), they tend to be more lenient with penalties. Don't panic, but do address it promptly.
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CosmicCowboy
I moved to Thailand 3 years ago and yes, the US still taxes me on worldwide income. But there are some strategies that help: 1. The Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) lets you exclude up to about $120k of EARNED income (like salary), but doesn't help with investments 2. If you live somewhere with income tax (unlike Caymans), foreign tax credits can offset what you pay to US 3. Consider tax-advantaged accounts for investments (Roth IRA, etc.) 4. Some people restructure investments to be more tax-efficient Whatever you do, don't try hiding anything. The US has info sharing agreements with most countries including tax havens.
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Natasha Orlova
•I heard some expats are going heavy into crypto to avoid reporting but that seems super risky. Isn't the IRS cracking down on that now?
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CosmicCowboy
•Using crypto to avoid reporting is an absolutely terrible idea. The IRS has massively increased enforcement in this area. Crypto exchanges are now required to report transactions, blockchain analytics are getting more sophisticated, and the penalties for willful non-compliance can include criminal charges. Remember that crypto transactions (including trading one crypto for another) are taxable events. The IRS considers crypto to be property, not currency, so each transaction can trigger capital gains tax. Some people mistakenly think crypto is "invisible" but that's becoming less true every year as reporting requirements expand.
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Javier Cruz
I moved to Malta last year and my biggest shock was learning about the Passive Foreign Investment Company (PFIC) rules. If you invest in non-US mutual funds or ETFs while abroad, the tax treatment is BRUTAL. Seriously OP, if you're moving to Caymans, keep your investments in US-domiciled funds only. The paperwork and tax rate on foreign funds is insane - like 37% + interest on gains.
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Ava Rodriguez
•Whoa I had no idea about this! Is this true even for index funds that just follow something like the S&P 500 but are based in another country? This is the kind of stuff that makes me wonder if the hassle is worth it...
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